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I Don't Get It (poll Added For Lurkers)

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Wickland2, Oct 15, 2016.

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Do you agree?

Poll closed Feb 15, 2017.
  1. Agree

    52 vote(s)
    61.2%
  2. Disagree

    33 vote(s)
    38.8%
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  1. Wickland2

    Wickland2 ? VIP+

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    Assassins are meant to be the highest damaging class with the trade off being low health and defense, yet every class seems to be much much better at everything, it really just seems pointless and that I'm just making it more difficult for no reason, it's no high risk high reward as it should be it's high risk low reward and imo it's in need of a buff
     
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  2. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    NO.

    I THOUGHT THESE THREADS WERE OVER.
    AAAAHHHHHH..

    in other words, no class is getting buffed just deal with the assassin
     
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  3. flip

    flip Chef HERO

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  4. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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  5. Nepeta Leijon

    Nepeta Leijon Rogue of Heart ♌ Leittarius

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    They shall never end!
     
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  6. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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  7. Nepeta Leijon

    Nepeta Leijon Rogue of Heart ♌ Leittarius

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    :33 < i k33p them as a meowmento of our roleplaying.
     
  8. RemRin

    RemRin Goddess of Air HERO

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    Shit he has a point...
     
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  9. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    It feels like assassin is having an existential crisis.

    It's designed to be a damage dealer that focuses on stealth and high risk with high reward, but it's spells and some of it's best weapons all focus on damage over time, stalling, and being defensive, which encourages a slower playstyle not at all based around stealth or high damage like the class is supposed to be.

    This might be less of an issue with the class, but more of an issue with the thunder element and how it affects the class. Dexterity comes with the risk reward playstyle we want for assassin, but guess what ID usually follows thunder around? Poison.

    Though it is somewhat an issue with the class as well. Multihit is pretty bad for damage compared to Meteor, Bomb Arrow, and Uppercut, it had it's uses, but it's more of a utility rather than a damage spell. Smoke Bomb is extremely powerful but focuses on damage over time and stopping the enemy in it's tracks. Spin Attack has the same focus, but it's slightly more promising as it's damage is all together in one hit, but it punishes you for spamming it! And then vanish is... Vanish.
     
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  10. dead zeffe

    dead zeffe Guest

    *hum* *hum* WEATHERED BUILD AIJEBZHVAGAFAFZGHEJFKLFPDPLABABZVDVJDJVAVVSVCACAGZCCZGAHACDVUHZVACZJDIOFPPAALAJD AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH KKAHVAVECAHIAIAKJZVSVSVAVCFHKZLZOZOIEB *hum* *hum* wait what? Did You hear taht? I heard nothing
     
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  11. Wickland2

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    These threads will be over when the problem is fixed, a buff/fix is coming and always will be as long as there's an issue

    This goes for everything not just the current state of Assassins.

    Also destiny is one of my favorite gaems tho so thanks for the pic
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    Is this a cypher? If so can u have the key and the kind of cipher?
     
  12. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    The threads will never be over apparently
     
  13. Wickland2

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    Read my other comment as long as there's a problem there is a fix on the way, well, at least if the devs have any kind of integrity
     
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    Toasted Asian Toasty VIP+

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    Have you ever heard of a Cataclysm, mountain spirit, weathered, rewind, crossroad killer, etc
     
  15. RemRin

    RemRin Goddess of Air HERO

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    Yes, but a class should not be balanced around 5 or 6 good weapons, but rather around ALL weapons that class can use.
     
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    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    And because of that,


    basically my view of this all is that assassin really doesn't need a buff. It just needs the right class set.
     
  17. Wickland2

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    It needs both, one more than the other but which one is difficult to decide
     
  18. Corcustos

    Corcustos Selfish? How Much? CHAMPION

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    Damage: Archer > Assassin
    Mobility: Any other class > Assassin
    Defense: Any other class > Assassin
    Spells: Mage > Assassin

    Assassin can be easily outclassed in any field. Archers have infinite speed III, while Assassins need to get their mana drained for about 7 seconds of Vanish. By the time you get near an enemy with vanish, you can't use any spells due to the mana drain. Actually, Assassin can outclass any of the other classes in something. That something is being a mana hog. I can understand if Warrior required more mana due to the fact that it's usually seen as an excessively melee type class. Why does Assassin require more mana to use spells than any other class, have less speed than it's ranged competitor, is more frail than any of the classes without having the highest damage output, and be the only class with a mobility spell that isn't viable for travel. Assassin is supposed to be, as the author said high risk high reward. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the Assassin class and would play it with or without a buff, but I do agree that it needs a tweak to make it feel right. In my honest opinion, Assassin should have more damage than Archer, not the other way around. Archers aren't faced with the challenge of having to get close to kill or do some good damage. They can sit on their perches with their arrow shields and smoke bombs getting more reward than an Assassin that has to get close to get any reward close to that. Also, I'm not suggesting we go back to the old broken Assassin. Despite that being fun as hell, it was a bit broken. A nerf was needed yes, but the nerf went a bit too far. Only slightly.

    tl;dr: I love the Assassin, and would use it no matter what. However, I agree with the author of this thread. Assassin feels incomplete.

    Edit: Yes I've heard of the builds for Assassin like the Weathered and such, but I'm talking about the Assassin overall.
     
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  19. Wickland2

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    I completely agree With you
    ...agreeing...With....me
     
  20. WithTheFish

    WithTheFish Internet Macrocelebrity

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    I like assassin, by like I mean I feel like I'm forced to like it. Honestly, multihit's spell cost is absurd and you're practically forced to use an intelligence build if you want to use the other 1/4 of the class.
     
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