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Reaction/Discussion The Good, The Bad, And The Bugs

Discussion in 'Beta Feedback' started by guinea911, Aug 25, 2016.

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How does the update sound to you?

Poll closed Sep 25, 2016.
  1. Fantastic

    41.5%
  2. Very Good

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  3. Good

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  4. OK

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  5. Average

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  6. Bad

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  7. Very Bad

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  8. Terrible

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  1. guinea911

    guinea911 Wynning for over two years! VIP+

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    I have been playing beta for a day now so I have decided to post about my experiences.

    The Good:
    - The new Sprint Bar offers a lot of running distance allowing you to get around faster. Their will be more about it in The Bad section though :(
    - POWDERS!!! Everyone in the beta instantly fell in love with powders... I think. It is hard not to when they buff your equipment. Just a side note, to use them, you need to find a Powder Master. Their is one in Nivla Forest and one conveniently located in Detlas! Their are definitely more around the map somewhere but I haven't explored that far.
    - Dungeons are epic so don't change them. I played through the level 9 Decrepit Sewers (Formerly Skeleton Dungeon) and that one is fun to grind. You can tell that dungeons give a lot more xp that before. I also decided at level 22, to try and solo the Infested Pits (Formerly Spider Dungeon). I did it but, it was EXTREAMLY HARD soloing it at level 22. I probably wouldn't do it again until I am level 30 at least. Also, a quick side note about the new quest keys. The keys are found on their respective guardian found close (Usually) to the dungeon. Each guardian is different though ;)
    - The new quests sound good but I have not tried them yet accept for Elemental Exercise. More on that one later. Mushroom Man quest is more bearable! I hate that quest but it is easier now because you can compleat the whole quest without leaving Nivla Forest! Their are new mobs called Mushrooms in the Nivla Forest. They are friendly but when killed, drop 1 of each type of mushroom.

    The Bad:
    -The Sprint bar is up again! So like I said above, "The new Sprint Bar offers a lot of running distance allowing you to get around faster. Their will be more about it in The Bad section though" Here is the more. Once your sprint bar fully depletes, it starts taking away your mana. It depletes your mana so fast you don't have time to stop running! So then you get to the usual 6 mana left and you stop sprinting, get surrounded. You realize that you now don't have enough mana to cast your spell... and you die. Now that was a harsh scenario but could potentially happen. I definitely believe the mana should not deplete as fast. Maybe half of what it is now would be nice. Also about the sprint bar... IT TAKES 20 YEARS TO REGENERATE!!! When your bar depletes fully, you stop sprinting and walk while it gets up again. 20 seconds later, you start sprinting and find the bar wasn't even fully filled yet. Two fixes; 1: Make the bar regenerate in, at most, 10 seconds. 2: Make their some type of way to upgrade your sprint regeneration speed. Maybe a sixth skill or a new set of skills all together. Or maybe when one skill, like intellect, gets to like 20 skill points, you get an extra perk with it that makes your sprint bar regen 50% faster or it sprinting after the bar is empty doesn't deplete your mana as fast. That would be pretty cool ^-^ Can we have a counter of how many time I said deplete (Another one) in that part. It will no doubt exceed 10.
    - I didn't expect to be putting powders into the list but what do you know. This is pretty simple, powders I feel are under powered. Now I have only seen Powders tier 1 and 2. tier 1 seems fine but tier 2 is almost identical to tier 1. On weapons, tier 2 don't do a whole lot more damage than tier 1. On armor, tier 2 doesn't offer a whole lot more defense than tier 1. I just believe those should be fixed. Buff tier 2 powders to make tier 2 more better because at the moment, tier 2 offers only a couple more hp of from tier 1 when it should be more.

    The Bugs:
    - First off, powders on armor are bugged! I had no thunder defense. I put some thunder powder on. This piece of armor had no prior thunder but now said it has +3 thunder defense. The was normal. I put the piece of armor on and when I went into the compass and looked at the defense, I still had no thunder defense but the piece of armor said +3 Thunder Defense after I put the powders on. That should probably get fixed. Powders on weapons work good still! Trust me, I can tell!
    - The quest made by Headset called Elemental Exercise is absolutely broken! Just I can't tell you everything wrong with it. I don't know how the quest is supposed to play out so I just... IDK. Please fix!
    - The quest Sayerose's Brother is broken as well. You talk to sayerose and head to Nemract like normal only to find that drunkes had too much to drink and can't function properly for the quest. Maybe he should just rest. Leave him alone guys, I know we want to do the quest but he doesn't!
    - Last bug takes place in the Decrepit Sewers. There are two doors you must open to get to the final boss fight only problem, you only need to unlock the first. The second door that is right outside the boss room is bugged and never is closes. Meaning the door is constantly open. You can literally just walk right in without putting tokens into the hopper.

    That is all I got for today. I will update this forum tomorrow on new found bugs and changes that have happened (If any) We are hard at "Work" on the beta server finding bugs for staff to fix so that you don't have to worry about them when the update come out and we can all enjoy these new and epic features! Stay tuned for more!!!
     
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  2. Headset_O

    Headset_O I used to do stuff for this server

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    I totally didn't make a thread about that: https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/elemental-exercise.146470/
    And the only problem I'm responsible for is the weapons, everything else worked fine on GM!

    Also you should edit the title to "The good, the bad and the bugly", that's a missed chance for a pun there.
     
  3. xINothing

    xINothing Im searching for a meme. CHAMPION

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    not new
     
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  4. ElegantDeath

    ElegantDeath Who needs a title anyways HERO

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    A) the grammar nazi inside me is bolting around B) the mushrooms have been around since before i joined
     
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  5. Kraby

    Kraby *insert clever meme* VIP+

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    thats because compass is bugged as all hell
     
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  6. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    Pretty sure it's just the compass being derpy
     
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  7. WithTheFish

    WithTheFish Internet Macrocelebrity

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    This was a good review, I'm surprised that you didn't mention the soul point changes (I also voted Terrible by accident, rip)
     
  8. guinea911

    guinea911 Wynning for over two years! VIP+

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    I always miss opportunities like that :( I tried. I like your weapon fail though! I was really getting frustrated when I got to that quest because I was trying to figure out what I was doing wrong. I'm still going to blame you @Headset_O just like I still blame @Jumla for spilling the coffee.

    IDK if it is the compass or powders not working properly but now that I think about it, bugged compass makes more sense.

    And a second one for bugged compass. It probably is the compass.

    Damn, I forgot to mention the soul point changes! Also, I'll just count 1 Terrible vote to Fantastic.
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  9. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    Excuse me? These aren't new, these have been around since the 1.1.2 update.

    The compass stats are wonky as all get-out. Never rely on them. Ever. You had the thunder defense, the compass was just being stupid like always.
     
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  10. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    I would've voted Fantastic but I just can't force myself to vote any higher than "good" because of the soul point revamp.
     
  11. bloww

    bloww Shoutbox Fancam Account

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    I'm pretty sure the spawn rates changed, there's a lot more spawning when you walk around.
    Oh c'mon.
    This system is way better.
     
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  12. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    No, it's horrible.
    And don't tell me to try it first like everyone else has, I'm in the beta, I have tried it.
    And I hate it with the rage of a thousand suns.
     
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  13. bloww

    bloww Shoutbox Fancam Account

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    Well, maybe you don't like it, but I do.
    Everyone can have their own opinion.
     
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  14. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    Your opinion is fine, but I have yet to see a legitimate explanation of why this system is better than the old one.
    I, for one, liked being able to play the game without having to afk at 8sp so I don't lose my stuff.
     
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  15. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    Nope. The file hasn't been touched since Summer of 2014.
     
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  16. bloww

    bloww Shoutbox Fancam Account

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    Oh, okay then.
    Maybe it's just because I haven't been in Nivla for months lol
     
  17. guinea911

    guinea911 Wynning for over two years! VIP+

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    Ok, I have gotten to level 40 so now I got a lot more stuff to say. Today, the first push of fixes went live on the beta server so there is a whole lot to inform you guys on.

    Bug Fixes/Changes
    - So last post, I talked about how powders were bugged but now, I actually learned that the stats that the compass displays are bugged and not the powders.
    - Drunkenness Potions were fixed letting you now complete Gravedigger Quest and The Angry Village Quest.
    - Elemental Exercise Quest has been fixed and is pretty fun! Thanks @Headset_O
    - I am not sure if it is my imagination but the sprint bar seems to regen slightly faster than before and it depletes your mana slightly slower, giving you more time to stop sprinting before it all runs out.
    - I believe the bug that makes quests not reward you with emeralds is fixed.
    - I am sure there are a lot more but it is 2:00AM in the morning and I can't remember them all.
    - It turns out that the Mushroom mob in the Nivla Forest has actually been there a while and I am just very blind.

    The Good
    - I like the way old quests have been re-worked and I like the new quests.
    - The dungeons are still looking fantastic.
    - More xp with quests make it easier to level and make there less of a need to grind at lower levels.
    - More xp dropped by mobs is getting noticed too ass my guys is already level 40.
    - You actually seem to always have more quests to do because of rapid leveling so you never stop doing stuff and get bored. I don't see how getting bored is an option on this server though because... IT'S WYNNCRAFT!!!
    - This next thing by far is the best feature in the update. Those of you who were playing wynncraft way back when it started remember the old hub with a portal for every server. Back in those times, there were also events called swarms. Yup, you probably know where I am going with this. Basically, a swarm is when a S**t ton of zombies attack a town. Sometimes it is Detlas, sometimes Nemract. You and everyone in the server abandon what you are doing and head to the town for a fight because you know there is mad xp. After you are victorious, you head to Nemract to drink too many drunkenness potions to celebrate. Well... Their baaaaaaack! Wit a Grapefruit!? (Tell me if you get the joke). But yeah swarms are back! They are a little bit different but still as fun and rewarding as before. To figure out the new mechanics of swarms, try them your self because it is too many words for me to type. My only complaint is that server lad goes from 0 to 100 triggered 420 no scope a scrub a dub a nub. Maybe there is just too much coding or maybe not enough ram. If it is a ram issue @Salted , we can get a donation train going so you can upgrade. I have no problem doing an anonymous donation even if I get no in game rewards. Not only that but if your computer isn't the best, you drop a lot of frames during the swarm so you get double critical headshot hit with lag. I was running probably 3 frames per 2 seconds on the swarm earlier today because my laptop isn't for gaming.
    #Make_Wynn_Lagfree_Again
    #Donate_For_More_RAM

    The Bad
    - I still feel like tier one powders are good but tier 2 and 3 are underpowered. I can't judge tiers 4, 5, and 6 because I haven't encountered any of those yet. Maybe it is just me; Tell me what you guys think about these powders.
    - I feel that emeralds are too hard to come by and ID'ing is too expensive. Remember, when ID'ing, do one item at a time. More items at a time hikes the price way up!
    - Crap! I know there was more I was going to put in this section but I just forget!

    The Bugs
    - Yes, even after the first push of fixes, there are still some other bugs that @Jumla needs to stop spilling his coffee on. BTW, @Salted, get @Jumla one of those unspellable mugs that were featured on Unbox Therapy. The less spilling he does, the less cleaning he does. The less cleaning he does, the more bugs he gets fixed. Anyways, moving on
    - You can not buy Nessak or Rymek TP Scrolls. This causes you not to be able to complete Tower of Amnesia Quest.
    - The compass is bugged. Pls fix. I was actually talking to @Pretzule about this and he/she said the compass probably won't be fixed in the Gameplay 1.15 Update but, then again, what does he/she know!? [Trying to be hopeful the compass will be fixed].
    - Had a bug occur today to me where I opened two loot chests in a row to find nothing in them. They were close together. Both Tier 2. Never happened again to them in those locations so it might have been a 1 time thing but still, maybe look into it in case it comes up again.
    - Encountered another bug today where I had a mission to kill 24 potion bottles in 5 minutes for -812 xp. That is no typo. Literally -812 xp. Needless to say, I did /dismiss.

    Anyways, it has been another "Hard" day at "Work". Testing into 2:00AM and then writing a review about that day for an additional hour (No joke started this review at 2:00AM and I am ending it now at 3:00AM) takes a lot out of you. I hope you guys enjoy, I hope some of the bug fixers read this and see what they got to do, and I hope to hear your guys feed back below. Take care and stay tuned for more updates.

    P.S. @Pretzule You must stop avoiding my question. This is yes or no. Are you or are you not of the lightly salted variety of pretzules?
     
  18. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    That was fixed; putting in more than one item at a time does not multiply the cost anymore. Just as it should, it simply adds it up. So if you're identifying two items, one worth 20 emeralds and another worth 30, it costs 50 emeralds to identify.

    Also, I don't see your issue. I'm about Lv 30 and I've accrued 11 emerald blocks. Identifying is a bit unrewarding in the beginning, but less so once you pass the Lv 20 mark, and that comes fairly quickly.
     
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  19. Pretzule

    Pretzule eats pretzels HERO

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    Thanks for your feed back.

    1. Funny.
    2. We know, hopefully it will be fixed in the next push.
    3. Oh man I sure do hope I know, but so far from what I have talked about with Salted there was no mention of it being fixed this update.
    4. I'll send that towards the Salted.
    5. The -xp glitch was fixed in the recent push.

    Yea sure, lightly salted works. I don't like a lot of salt on my pretzels at least, takes away the flavor.
     
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  20. coolname2034

    coolname2034 Formerly known as NPCGrian HERO

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    I was once like that, grasshopper. You need to control it. Grammar nazis leads to being annoying. Being annoying leads to people hating you. People hating you makes you sad.
     
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