Wynncraft: The Gameplay Update Changeblog #3 [quests]

coolname2034 · Aug 5, 2016

"Master Miyagi ". If ur gonna reference karate kid at least scramble it a bit.

Lord_He1mchen · Aug 5, 2016

@Zeng_ @DirtyDoge Dunno if you need that too
This is the second changeblog. I watched the News section on the forums so I got a mail with the thread. I tried to copy it and fill in the pictures. I hope it's all right because it's pretty hard to do that on the phone. Unfortunately I watched the News section after the first changeblog was out so I don't have a mail with that one.

Click here to see last week's changeblog about powders!

Disclaimer: The update isn't yet done, some of the stuff we talk in this thread aren't yet finished. So keep in mind there is a chance some of them don't make it on the first day of the update.

Alright, let's get going.

Like with every update, we are revamping some old stuff that got outdated with time. However, we changed a LOT of things on this one. Most of it is in Wynn, as Gavel doesn't suffer from as many outdated features.

Towns

A lot of towns got changed up in this update. Some of them didn't got touched, others got completely redone!

It goes from small stuff like opening up the market in Almuj...

... to simply bulldozing a town and redoing it, like in Jungle Village...

... or Pirate Cove (aka Pirate Island)...

We didn't simply changed the builds, we've also added some new NPCs and shops...

We've tried to add more depth to towns, to make them more interesting and unique. We hope you all like them. You guys should also definitely go see the new Rymek when it comes out, it's easily my favourite revamped town in this update.

General Revamps

We've of course worked on other stuff than towns. We've changed so much stuff that I can't list them all here, so instead, here's some of my favourites...

Adding elevators everywhere in the mesa to go up and down as you wish...

Making scroll shop sell lower level town scrolls, at a higher price...

How about allowing players to reset their skill points anywhere for only 2 Soul Points?

My favourite is this new boat you might see a lot from now on. They call it "V.S.S. Seaskipper". I'm sure you all know what it does already.

Wait! What is this?.. I wasn't supposed to talk about Dungeons in this post!

Man, Skiens Island sure changed since last time!

I'm sure you guys can also appreciate these conveniently placed coords and direction-indicator...

Items

Now I wish I could make a full changelog about the item changes, but it would take way too much time. Just know that we buffed most of the legendaries, and nerfed the Jester Set so it's less abusable (but still useful). Oh, we've also added some new mythics and about 300 items.

Quests Revamps

When quests came out, Wynn used to be 100% grinding. At the time, anything new was amazing. Well, not anymore. Some of the old quests are now very outdated... so we've redone them. You won't have to complete them again, except for Potion Making and Underice.

Here's the list of updated quests, the amount of stars shows how much we changed them:
- ***Temple of the Legends (less grindy, different story)
- **Ice Nations (reworked towns)
- **Stable Story (reworked whole quest)
- ***Underice (quest redone from scratch, will need to be completed again)
- *Jungle Fever (less back and forth)
- **The Passage (less grindy, different goal)
- **A Confused Farmer (less back and forth)
- *Zhight Island (better reward, less back and forth because of the Seaskipper)
- *Bob's Lost Soul (easier to find depressing items, Nesaak mobs drop them)
- *Prison Story (story changed a little bit)
- *Cook Assistant (easier to find the ingredients in Katoa)
- *Underwater (better ending)
- *Lord of the Clock (added a quick tp out of Mt Wynn)
- *Cluck Cluck (reworked arena)
- *Wrath of the Mummy (reworked arena)
- **The House of Twain (reworked how you get the helmet)
- **Beneath the Depths (reworked the skull cave)
- *Lost in the Jungle (story changed a little bit)
- ***Potion Making (quest redone from scratch, will need to be completed again)
- ***??? (more info about that one coming soon!)

Loot/XP Revamp

I'm sure you guys didn't see that one coming.
Now, a lot of you were asking for more quests in this update. We got those, of course, but we also decided to look into WHY people want so many more quests. Why are players only using double XP bombs on quests? Why is everyone only talking about quests? Well, after throwing a staff of twenty researchers at the problem (we didn't really do this), we realised that the issue was that quests are just too good. So we've made these changes...

Mobs now give up to 3-4x more XP
You probably won't notice a difference in the lower levels, but as you progress, you'll see that mobs now give
MUCH more XP than before.

Mobs now drops up to 2-3x more items than before
Same with the XP, lower levels should be unaffected. In the late game though, you should
see a lot more items when killing mobs. The only tier unaffected are mythics and sets.

Quests XP Changes
Now this is going to be controversial, but here we go...
Quests will not be affected by double XP bombs anymore, or any XP item. HOWEVER, we've also up to doubled a lot of quest XP, especially in the late levels. We just don't want you guys to feel like you've wasted a quest when you aren't using an XP bomb or your XP set. We want you to enjoy quests without worrying about all that.

New way to get good XP
In this update, quests won't be the only good way to get XP anymore, so don't be scared about the changes! I'll say more about that next time.

So that's it for this changeblog! There's so many little changes we've done that I can't even hope writing them all down. They'll be a surprise when the update drops! I did also purposefully avoided talking about bigger ones (admins need to have some fun too, right?). You'll see them in game!

We've focused a lot on the player experience for this update, and we hope you guys will like the new Wynncraft. See you next time for the third changeblog!

Tantibus · Aug 5, 2016

Grian said: ↑

Added some flavour-text NPC's who will talk to you in towns and offer you citizen based lore about the areas. Due to the limitations of the quest system, these will appear as "Quest NPC's" We will hopefully change that in the future.
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Now that the rank bug is fixed, I can finally brag about my cool idea, the town NPCs! Yaaaaay for the 2500 line YML that I suffered through. Yaaaaay!

_TheD0ct0r_ · Aug 5, 2016

"We'll talk about this later in the thread"
Thats what you people said in part 2... The secrecy of this quest is unreal

yuuenchi2 · Aug 5, 2016

Grian said: ↑

Hello everyone!

So this update has been mainly centered around gameplay features - hence the name of the update (duh). But we on the content team have been cooking up some interesting changes of our own!

But before I list off the very short list of quests, I need to explain a few things; one, half of the work we've been putting in over the last 6 months haven't actually been for this particular update. I know, weird thought, huh. This update addresses mainly gameplay stuff. We have actually been working on brand new areas for the NEXT update (not this one). In development, we have to often think about things way in advance of when they happen. Basically, this update, while there are some really cool physical revamps of places such as old towns and quests, there won't be any new areas. Meme land confirmed.

Alright, next thing; I want to thank the GM team for putting together the small quest list for this update. A lot of you will be very upset that there is a severe lack of quests, and I don't want you to blame the GM's at all. There are a very small amount of people on the GM team, and they all have varying amounts of time they can input to Wynn (they have lives too - guys!). So this would probably be a good time to tell you that after this update we will be revamping our GM application system to try and make it a lot easier to understand what it takes to be a GM and make the whole process a lot smoother in general, and hopefully we'll have the community jump to the call to help us make new stories!

On that note, I want to announce that we're also working on improving the quest system in general (in both what we can do, and making it easier to use) this will be the system that is also used for the main storyline. It's currently not very fun to make a quest if you ask any GM, they'll probably confirm that for me :D None the less, they help make them because they are great for Wynncraft!

ALRIGHT ONTO THE ACTUAL UPDATE.

Quests:

Elemental Exercise: Lvl 10

Made by Headset, this is a VERY short quest at the early stages of the game just to act as a little tutorial for people and introduce them to the concept of elements a little more formally in the game. If this is the quest that gets you the most excited; i'm a little worried.

???: lvl 80

We'll talk about this later in the thread.

The Canyon Guides: Lvl 84

Hah, you're going to hate us for this one. Made by Tantibus, in this quest you need to drag a poor lost soul all the way across the canyon to salvation. He will follow you as best he can, but you'll have to protect him from all the canyon creatures! It seems the canyon doesn't want him to be saved though...

The Canary Calls: Lvl 85

Also made by Tantibus (started by AbandonedBank), This quest is about a gas leak in the Thesead mines. They need to get back to work, but the gas isn't as toxic to Humans as it is to Villagers, so they need your help! WARNING: Gas is extremely flammable.

The Hidden City: Lvl 88

Eltom has been a bit of an anomaly for a while, but finally in a quest made by Leo, we have a quest to explain how it got there and why. But there may be a traitor who threatens the secrecy of the town... Founding a Human town in Gavel is strictly illegal.

Enter the Dojo: Lvl 89

This is a short quest in the canyon started by Gold and finished by Villageaclues. Master Miyagi has been teaching his students for years, but none of them can pass his trials, can you?

Recipe For Disaster: Lvl 96

This quest is an interesting one made by NoobyNatty. You'll have to impress a very prestigious chef with your recipe. The better your dish, the better your reward!

The Fortunteller: Lvl 97

And finally, a quest made by AbandonedBank. This is a weird short quest in KandonBeda about fairytales and history. I'll let you figure it out.

You can tell we focused on a content gap in the later levels, but actually left a huge one from 90-95. This was intentional, if a little annoying. I plan to add a "mini storyline" there that will cover the entire area and provide an official lore to Molten Heights. This will be our test of the new quest system and practice for the main storyline. So basically when it's done, the quests in Molten Heights will be a mini mainstoryline (just for that area) and won't have a series of side quests (like in the rest of the game).

Lore :

There have been a few secret rooms added to the map that contain lore.

Added some flavour-text NPC's who will talk to you in towns and offer you citizen based lore about the areas. Due to the limitations of the quest system, these will appear as "Quest NPC's" We will hopefully change that in the future.

Now, onto the big one. The ??? revamp.

Upon the update release, as in, on the first day of the update, there will be a new SECTION on the forums and there will be an official thread by Lotem to tell you about the hell we've been through, but the section is where you can post about your findings on the quest. That's right. "???" quest is now the largest, most unfair and most complicated COMMUNITY EVENT on Wynncraft.

How does it work?

Well, that would be telling. When the update happens, you have to literally figure it out yourself. You won't get ANY help. Not even a hint. I need to make this crystal clear to everyone. It's not fair. It's not designed like a normal game. It's meant to be the most ambiguous, hidden thing in the game. The puzzles are hard, the locations are hidden and the method is 100% unknown. Only 4 people know the whole method to solve it. The CT are Banned from telling anyone anything about this quest or even doing it themselves (as they will have seen some of it on build) until everyone else has done it.

You will be forced to work together as a community to help each other solve this riddle. If you find a room, you should write it on the thread to let everyone know where it is, and they should do the same. If you don't work together, you won't figure it all out.

Once the whole quest is solved, the solution will be permanently available for anyone to see and use. We do not expect all players to figure this one out on their own. It's the ultimate easter egg.

So, as you can tell the big difference is that this version of ??? is now not a secret. You are encouraged to help and talk about it. The quest will be reset for everyone, and anyone can take part. The old quest will no longer exist.

Tantibus, Lotem and I worked VERY hard to make this quest. So, you can blame us. I predict it will take a week to solve, they think at least 3 weeks, i guess we will see.

Good luck. You're going to need it.

That's it from my side! I look forward to showing you what we're working on in future updates - but for now enjoy the quests and have fun trying to solve ???.

Thank you to the entire CT for helping make all the updates happen. You should tell them you love them too. without the CT, there would be no Wynncraft.

Grian
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can finally like the post because they fixed the weird forums glitch!

whoisthis? · Aug 5, 2016

Dear Salted/Grian/GM TEAM can you please add neutral damage to some of the mythics such as Alkatraz? I realized that with out Neutral damage powerful items such as Taurus do not effect the melee damage done. Foolish me for spending 2 stacks of le on a Alkatraz that doesn't work with my Taurus to become the ultimate weapon.

cars3n · Aug 5, 2016

Skullboy22mwc said: ↑

Dear Salted/Grian/GM TEAM can you please add neutral damage to some of the mythics such as Alkatraz? I realized that with out Neutral damage powerful items such as Taurus do not effect the melee damage done. Foolish me for spending 2 stacks of le on a Alkatraz that doesn't work with my Taurus to become the ultimate weapon.
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lol you made your own mistake

whoisthis? · Aug 5, 2016

Grian said: ↑

Hello everyone!

So this update has been mainly centered around gameplay features - hence the name of the update (duh). But we on the content team have been cooking up some interesting changes of our own!

But before I list off the very short list of quests, I need to explain a few things; one, half of the work we've been putting in over the last 6 months haven't actually been for this particular update. I know, weird thought, huh. This update addresses mainly gameplay stuff. We have actually been working on brand new areas for the NEXT update (not this one). In development, we have to often think about things way in advance of when they happen. Basically, this update, while there are some really cool physical revamps of places such as old towns and quests, there won't be any new areas. Meme land confirmed.

Alright, next thing; I want to thank the GM team for putting together the small quest list for this update. A lot of you will be very upset that there is a severe lack of quests, and I don't want you to blame the GM's at all. There are a very small amount of people on the GM team, and they all have varying amounts of time they can input to Wynn (they have lives too - guys!). So this would probably be a good time to tell you that after this update we will be revamping our GM application system to try and make it a lot easier to understand what it takes to be a GM and make the whole process a lot smoother in general, and hopefully we'll have the community jump to the call to help us make new stories!

On that note, I want to announce that we're also working on improving the quest system in general (in both what we can do, and making it easier to use) this will be the system that is also used for the main storyline. It's currently not very fun to make a quest if you ask any GM, they'll probably confirm that for me :D None the less, they help make them because they are great for Wynncraft!

ALRIGHT ONTO THE ACTUAL UPDATE.

Quests:

Elemental Exercise: Lvl 10

Made by Headset, this is a VERY short quest at the early stages of the game just to act as a little tutorial for people and introduce them to the concept of elements a little more formally in the game. If this is the quest that gets you the most excited; i'm a little worried.

???: lvl 80

We'll talk about this later in the thread.

The Canyon Guides: Lvl 84

Hah, you're going to hate us for this one. Made by Tantibus, in this quest you need to drag a poor lost soul all the way across the canyon to salvation. He will follow you as best he can, but you'll have to protect him from all the canyon creatures! It seems the canyon doesn't want him to be saved though...

The Canary Calls: Lvl 85

Also made by Tantibus (started by AbandonedBank), This quest is about a gas leak in the Thesead mines. They need to get back to work, but the gas isn't as toxic to Humans as it is to Villagers, so they need your help! WARNING: Gas is extremely flammable.

The Hidden City: Lvl 88

Eltom has been a bit of an anomaly for a while, but finally in a quest made by Leo, we have a quest to explain how it got there and why. But there may be a traitor who threatens the secrecy of the town... Founding a Human town in Gavel is strictly illegal.

Enter the Dojo: Lvl 89

This is a short quest in the canyon started by Gold and finished by Villageaclues. Master Miyagi has been teaching his students for years, but none of them can pass his trials, can you?

Recipe For Disaster: Lvl 96

This quest is an interesting one made by NoobyNatty. You'll have to impress a very prestigious chef with your recipe. The better your dish, the better your reward!

The Fortunteller: Lvl 97

And finally, a quest made by AbandonedBank. This is a weird short quest in KandonBeda about fairytales and history. I'll let you figure it out.

You can tell we focused on a content gap in the later levels, but actually left a huge one from 90-95. This was intentional, if a little annoying. I plan to add a "mini storyline" there that will cover the entire area and provide an official lore to Molten Heights. This will be our test of the new quest system and practice for the main storyline. So basically when it's done, the quests in Molten Heights will be a mini mainstoryline (just for that area) and won't have a series of side quests (like in the rest of the game).

Lore :

There have been a few secret rooms added to the map that contain lore.

Added some flavour-text NPC's who will talk to you in towns and offer you citizen based lore about the areas. Due to the limitations of the quest system, these will appear as "Quest NPC's" We will hopefully change that in the future.

Now, onto the big one. The ??? revamp.

Upon the update release, as in, on the first day of the update, there will be a new SECTION on the forums and there will be an official thread by Lotem to tell you about the hell we've been through, but the section is where you can post about your findings on the quest. That's right. "???" quest is now the largest, most unfair and most complicated COMMUNITY EVENT on Wynncraft.

How does it work?

Well, that would be telling. When the update happens, you have to literally figure it out yourself. You won't get ANY help. Not even a hint. I need to make this crystal clear to everyone. It's not fair. It's not designed like a normal game. It's meant to be the most ambiguous, hidden thing in the game. The puzzles are hard, the locations are hidden and the method is 100% unknown. Only 4 people know the whole method to solve it. The CT are Banned from telling anyone anything about this quest or even doing it themselves (as they will have seen some of it on build) until everyone else has done it.

You will be forced to work together as a community to help each other solve this riddle. If you find a room, you should write it on the thread to let everyone know where it is, and they should do the same. If you don't work together, you won't figure it all out.

Once the whole quest is solved, the solution will be permanently available for anyone to see and use. We do not expect all players to figure this one out on their own. It's the ultimate easter egg.

So, as you can tell the big difference is that this version of ??? is now not a secret. You are encouraged to help and talk about it. The quest will be reset for everyone, and anyone can take part. The old quest will no longer exist.

Tantibus, Lotem and I worked VERY hard to make this quest. So, you can blame us. I predict it will take a week to solve, they think at least 3 weeks, i guess we will see.

Good luck. You're going to need it.

That's it from my side! I look forward to showing you what we're working on in future updates - but for now enjoy the quests and have fun trying to solve ???.

Thank you to the entire CT for helping make all the updates happen. You should tell them you love them too. without the CT, there would be no Wynncraft.

Grian
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So grian out of all of these which one would you say is the: longest quest? and which one the: Best quest? Its a quality/Quantity thing I'm really curious about.

Kraby · Aug 5, 2016

Tantibus said: ↑

Now that the rank bug is fixed, I can finally brag about my cool idea, the town NPCs! Yaaaaay for the 2500 line YML that I suffered through. Yaaaaay!
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wowowwow
i made that suggestion months ago in the suggestion forums
where are my bragging rights? i worked like 5 minutes for that thread

SUPER M · Aug 6, 2016

I am very disappointed with this update :/

TempleOfLegends · Aug 6, 2016

Super_m said: ↑

I am very disappointed with this update :/
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Why?

Rexshell · Aug 6, 2016

Sorry if it's already been asked, but, is the ??? ending going to be the same? Or at least, is the current one going to still exist? I still like the ending of the current one, at least one part of it.

Also, does this mean we can talk about the current ??? now, since it doesn't matter? :P

SPYROHAWK · Aug 6, 2016

Grian said: ↑

So, as you can tell the big difference is that this version of ??? is now not a secret. You are encouraged to help and talk about it. The quest will be reset for everyone, and anyone can take part. The old quest will no longer exist.
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Is the lore from the original (or "old" as you call it) ??? Quest still canon? Or is everything we learn there no longer part of the actual lore? (Which would really suck cuz it's a foundation for many cool theories)

DirtyDoge · Aug 6, 2016

TempleOfTracer said: ↑

Why?
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Because he never got to find ???

MattiMan2406 · Aug 6, 2016

Will we lose the rewards from the old "???" quest?

Ackro · Aug 6, 2016

Rexshell said: ↑

Also, does this mean we can talk about the current ??? now, since it doesn't matter? :P
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I am sure that even after the update, the old ??? will remain non-spoken-of.

ThrowingChildren · Aug 6, 2016

"You will be forced to work together as a community to help each other solve this riddle. If you find a room, you should write it on the thread to let everyone know where it is, and they should do the same. If you don't work together, you won't figure it all out."

So can someone shout the coords if they find it?

Microvac · Aug 6, 2016

Nice, new quests for high level-ed players.
Hmm, I'm wondering about '???' quest.

Although '???' will be the most complicated quest ever on wynn's history, will it reward enough for solving that?
And, what happens to the players who played '???' already?

Lotem · Aug 6, 2016

Grian said: ↑

official thread by Lotem
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Official thread by the official mythic builder in the official Wynncraft Contact Team TM

Tantibus · Aug 6, 2016

Bored Archon said: ↑

Nice, new quests for high level-ed players.
Hmm, I'm wondering about '???' quest.

Although '???' will be the most complicated quest ever on wynn's history, will it reward enough for solving that?
And, what happens to the players who played '???' already?
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??? is going to be reset for everyone:

Grian said: ↑

The quest will be reset for everyone, and anyone can take part.
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