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   Diabound Well-Known Adventurer

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   Is defence bad for a catus build, like does the thorns do less dmg with defence?

    

   Diabound, Jun 19, 2016

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   Nepeta Leijon Rogue of Heart ♌ Leittarius

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   Thorns and Reflection do the damage dealt to you back to the attacker, so the damage is based on the attacker, not you.

    

   Nepeta Leijon, Jun 19, 2016

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