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Why Heal Needs Nerf

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by FlamingPinecone, Mar 2, 2016.

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Is heal op?

  1. Yes it is OP and needs nerf.

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  2. No u scrub mage is master race and must remain OP

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  3. Heal isnt OP you dingus.

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  1. Bart (MC)

    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC) CHAMPION

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    And right now it it has a Heal spell that only works effective when you have like 1/2 of your health; otherwise the healing will go down A LOT. And Mages have kind of really bad defense, so most of the time they won't even be able to use Heal in time.
     
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  2. Kraby

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    really bad defense is what archer has
    mage has decent defense
    and i dont think a class dies so fast that it wont have time to click the mouse 3 times lol
     
  3. Bart (MC)

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    Against a lot of bosses and in most duels, I get like two-shot. And archers vcan deal crazy amounts of damage, so they won't be hit; Mages can only do a lot of damage with Meteore, and if someone survives the meteor rain, no mana is left to use Heal.
    Oh and my lag doesn't help either (tries to use heal, uses ice snake) i cri evrytiem ;-;
     
  4. Kraby

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    well my mage is lvl 51 i have like 60 or 50 points in intl and meteor costs 4 mana for me , same with heal
    you dont run out of mana like that
     
  5. Enoxium

    Enoxium Well-Known Adventurer

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    Ive never used a potion before
     
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  6. Bart (MC)

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    I do :/ with mah messy first-time-playthrough-ever skill point thing... yeh
    But seriously, Heal is a little bit OP, I won't deny that, but with nerfed Heal... Mages will be like not fun to play anymore. (Imagine having to buy POTIONS as a Mage... terrible...)
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    So you haven't done the Potion Making quest?
     
  7. Kraby

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    it could just have like a 5 second cooldown or something ;-;
    or cost more mana
     
  8. BlahBlah161616

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    They would, Salted has said he wants to nerf heal, but he doesn't want it to be useless.
     
  9. TheMeteorPhoenix

    TheMeteorPhoenix Well-Known Adventurer

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    For all. You people who say Mage is op, think of all the Mages in the world who want to use heal, but then accidentally use ice snake. I did that twice in a PVP battle, and then I died. Plus, if you're at like 2 hearts with 1800+ hp max, you don't heal much and still end up dying.
     
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    Feel ya m8. And you're still lucky. Only twice? Heck, I need to use Heal 3 times before it actually IS Heal.
    The lag tho
     
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    Oh yeah, thats gonna be REAL good when multiple people need heal from you, and you need to cast it multiple times to heal everyone...
    Warrior: I need a heal
    Mage *heals*
    Assassin: I need a heal
    Mage: sorry I have to wait 5 seconds lol gotta make sure we dont be useful or anyhting
    By then the Warrior is whining for more heal
    Then you all die because you cant heal shit.

    Oh and about the "not using basic attack" there is this weird feature in the game where if your mana runs out you cant cast spells and can only basic attack? It's pretty odd and never used before. /s

    Seriously guys, we've been the worst class in the game until now, and as I've seen, only Assassins can relate to this. We kinda deserve this buff.
     
  12. leonagastya

    leonagastya Well-Known Adventurer

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    In my opinion heal isn't that OP. Yes it can heal about half your health, but potions can do that too. Other than that in PvE the mage is useful in healing other people too, especially in boss fights which can make other classes go to pretty low health. Other than that as a mage I can only cast three heals which means that I'm defensless for about 10 seconds, enough time for other classes to kill me. Plus as your health goes lower you heal less hearts. So if you deal enough damage to a mage, like 3/4 of its healt, the heal spell will only heal half of the health you have at that time.

    But this is just MY OPINION so maybe I am wrong and just dumb as a wynn player.
     
  13. Kahsol

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    No idea if this has been said already, but the less amount of health you have, the less you will heal. You have to time it right to make sure you don't waste mana healing a few hearts, but make sure you don't already have a few hearts then heal nothing.
     
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    This gu is probably an assasin lol
     
  15. FlamingPinecone

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    This gu is a Warrior.
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    Earth and thunder builds can do enough, but let me describe a typical duel with a mage as a Fire Warrior:
    1. Duel Starts. I war scream, of course.
    2. I get instantly ice snaked.
    3. I charge at them, because I have no other option, and do a bit of damage, but don't get the uppercut off because the teleport behind me.
    4. Ice snake effect ends, and I try to get up close again and get hits off, I may get an uppercut or bash off, but now I'm frozen again once they get back down.
    5. I try charging again, hit them, and they are now at about half health, but then they heal, making me lose all my damage progress. Now, they might have only been able to get a single meteor and a couple basic attacks off, but this whole process repeats and I slowly get chipped down.
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    Guys, I don't know how this was possible, but it doesn't seem right. 2016-02-13_14.40.22.png
    I didn't even have that much health, and somehow I got healed more than what I had. Before I got healed, I was just a couple hundred health away from death, and that clearly did not affect how much I got healed for.
     
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    This was really odd, as it only gave me about 5000 hp since I was near max. It seems he was healed more then me by my own heal somehow.
     
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    Just going to leave this here...
     
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  19. Lesliep

    Lesliep Lazy Wynn Mage

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    Heal gives ALOT more for allies then it does for yourself. Like almost always a full heal. For example I self heal for 3-4K and healed a random guy for 17k. I'm assuming this is to make Mage indespensible for group fights
     
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    I think people using the duel example against mages forget that heal has a pretty big radius, so you have to get away from the opponent, by TP or sprint, then heal, then go back to the fight, by TP or sprint.
    In conclusion: the above example takes up a lot of mana, even at max intel.
     
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