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Media Wynn Science - How Does Uppercut Work?

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  1. FishWaffle

    FishWaffle It's ya boi VIP

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    Hello people of the Wynncraft community! In this theory we will dissect the Warrior's own Uppercut spell, and how exactly it would work in real life.
    We need to deal with these things to find out the power it takes for the spell to function:
    -Distance Enemies Are Launched
    -Convert Into Power
    -Determine Aftereffects

    -First, we need to find out how far the warrior launches enemies. My pal @TempleOfLegends helped me out here are found out that it roughly sends them 22 blocks high in around 3 seconds. Since in Minecraft 1 block is equal to 1 meter, that means we have a power of 22m upwards. The average human is about 62 kg in mass, and the player is 2 meters tall.

    -Second, we need to deduce how much power it will take to send a mob flying at that rate. To find this we need to calculate the Kinetic Energy and Potential Energy of the mob. Since the KE and PE sum of the mob in midair is that of the same with what warrior exerts.

    The Initial PE of the target = o (because its on the ground)
    The Initial KE of the target = ? (We need to look for this one)
    Final PE = When the target is in midair = mgh
    Final KE = o since no force is exerted on the mob when v=o

    Thus,
    Initial PE + KE = Final PE + KE
    0 + KE = mgh + 0
    KE = (62)(10)(22)
    (Thanks to @SilverMirror for the fix)
    Which gives us 13640 joules for the mob to boost in the air. (I'm not getting into gravity force until we find out if its the same as on earth)

    -So, what did we find out in the end? Simple, that the warrior can preform around 136x the average human in one swing. The aftereffects? Well the mob, spear, and player would all shatter at the same time, killing them all. Or you could say its "Magic." That works too. Thank you for reading, and if there were any incorrect statements or math, please tell me. This has been Fish, and I'll see you all later.
     
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  2. Kahsol

    Kahsol Local Serial Liker CHAMPION

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  3. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    I prefer the non-magic option. It's more intresting to visualize
     
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  4. Soviet Union

    Soviet Union Sieze the means of production HERO

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    Its "Magic"

    So this means using uppercut would normaly kill me if it wasnt for wynn logic?
     
  5. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    please get your physics right before doing this thread, you did not calculate the effect of gravity on the mob

    Let's say what you said were true,
    Mass of human = 62 kg
    Time taken for the target to travel = 3 s
    Distance travelled = 22 m
    Acceleration due to gravity = -10 m/s
    Final speed = 0 (the velocity before hitting the ground = 0 as the mob turn from flying upward to falling downward)
    Initial speed =

    Now you can start the maths
    V^2 - U^2 = 2as
    0 - U^2 = 2(-10)(22)
    U = 20.9 m/s

    Secondly you cannot calculate the force with F= MA due to the only acceleration is the gravity, but to calculate the actual force, you must use momentum , and u cannot use t=3 as that would be the time the target went flying gravity, to calculate the momentum thus the actual force, you must estimate the time needed between the player clicking the mouse and using the spell and the target actually went flying, I use 0.1 s as an example

    F=(mv-mu)/t
    F=(62)(20.9)-(62)(0)/0.1
    F=12380N

    Also you do not need to calculate he POWER as no work is done when sending the target flying, the work is only done in the momentum change


    Edit:
    to calculate the power actually needed to boost the mob into the air , I have a second deduction, the calculation using the change in Kinetic Energy and Potential Energy would be a better calculation for this topic

    As the total energy must be conserve during all times, the initial sum of kinetic energy (KE) and potential energy (PE) must be equal to the final sum of KE and PE

    Therefore, the KE and PE sum when the warrior exerted force to the target must be equal to the KE and PE sum of the target when it is in mid air

    Initial PE of target = 0 as it is on the ground
    Initial KE of target = ? this is what we should look for
    Final PE = when the target is in mid air = mgh
    Final KE = 0 as no force is exerted to the mob when v=0

    Therefore
    Initial PE + KE = Final PE + KE
    0 + KE = mgh + 0
    KE = (62)(10)(22)

    Total energy needed to boost the target to the air = 13640J

    As the OP said, average human can exert force up to 50-150J only so the warrior is just 136X stronger than average human xd
    (Yeah totally not a big deal lol)
     
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  6. Jedi51

    Jedi51 Well-Known Adventurer

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    Ok.... Someone needs to go check their maths...
     
  7. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    woops xd sorry I wrote that wrong
    But it's true that the momentum change is done only by the initial change of speed from the warrior hitting the mob instead of using F=MA though

    You know what, it might even be a better idea to use KE PE to calculate xd
     
  8. xBurrito

    xBurrito Burrito for adoption. HERO

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    You also need to note that the warriors hits the ground directly instead on the mob itself. It's needs more effort to make the earth throw up mobs, if that's possible in te first place,
     
  9. Hiryu

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    I don't understand, but I do understand that warriors are just simply badass
     
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    Omg please don't xd I already used up so much time calculating the KE lol
    I love me some physics buddy though <3

    Coz with hitting the ground one needs to calculate the force exert into the ground and the shock wave travelling speed and wavelength in the solid ground and acoustic impedancy of the ground with Z=pc and shock wave decay aka attenuation with I=I0e^-ux and that would be a pain lol
     
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    ik xd but that would be impossible to calculate anything isn't it
     
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    As of gravity I prefer not to mess with this as we do not know if Wynn has the same gravity force as the world. However, the Kinetic Energy and Potential Energy I must've looked over seeing as I wrote is a 12:00 in the night. Thank you for the feedback, I'll try to fix the theory with it!
     
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    In addition the minecraft player is less than 2m tall.
     
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    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    hear me out, I know it sounds crazy. what if, hold on, what if, its magic?
     
  20. FishWaffle

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    (Also there is no fun in just saying "its magic")
     
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