Fire And Earth.

So I've talked to some people who has elements more central then we do by a lot. I asked them; Is Fire a strength type element or defense. I asked the same with earth. The majority said Fire = Strength, Earth = Defense.
And some said: Depends on how you use them. And I agree with a lot of them.

If you were to shoot an arrow at a rock, the arrow does't penetrate. But if you shoot an arrow at fire, the arrow can easily penetrate, and lits it on fire, which can be more devastating. Here is this one person that said: Fire = Gun, Earth = Shield.

Imagine a 30m thick fire wall. If someone were to use a cannon and shoot at it, the cannon ball would go right through. Now Imagine a 30m thick rock wall, this time its not so easily penetrated.

Ok now Imagine a hammer hitting at your face with a lot of force. That can damage your face a ton. Now imagine a torch hitting you and lits you on fire. Now your burning to death, if not your whole body is burned and gives you a lot of burn pain later. And the fire spreads. So if you were to get burned on your face it can spread to your entire head then your upper body and then everything if you don't put it out quick.

Now imagine giant rocks gets throw at a wooden village. It deals a lot of destruction, but takes time and can't destroy it completely. Now imagine you lit it on fire, since its wood everything would get burned down.
Now imagine a village made out of rocks. Now its much harder to destroy with rocks and can't even get burned down, which means that earth is better defense.

So what do you guys have to say about these. I want to know why Fire = defense and Earth = strength.

Would it be better to say Fire = Offense or Attack, Earth = Defense?

 

Not sure why Fire is the defensive element in this game, but that's how it is.

 

Earth and Fire's Skill Stats should've been switched.

 

ye it should.
Im a fire type guy, and I put strength more central than defense. I feel strength is more fire than earth. Strength and defense is almost equally important, but I would put strength above defense.

 

blame salted


I agree tho

 

Even though Earth and Fire are Strength and Defense, I do think that they should be swapped.

 

I was always wondering why the earth was str and fire was def :/
+1
Also wrong section

 

Ye Fire and Earth is both offense and defense, mostly earth. There shouldn't be any major problems swapping them, except for the weapons and armor that has earth or fire on it, right?

 

I'm still irked that dexterity is linked to "thunder" which is a sound, which has nothing to do with dex items, when it should be "lightning" because they're clearly going for an electrical motif here... but whatever...

I also don't understand the link from water to intelligence, but I feel like that's some MTGesque fantasy trope that I'm just not familiar with... I guess we can just be happy with the agility->wind link and deal with the others for now...

 

Fire does seem offensive, but I don't think it matches well with "Strength"

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Giant rocks would plow through a village just like that. Fire would actually take time, since FIRE DOESN'T SPREAD AND BURN A VILLAGE IN HALF A SECOND.
A village made of fire wouldn't be able to be hurt by anything, rocks nor fire.

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Tbh rocks will still plow through a rock village if it's moving at high enough speed.

 

Why should wynn have to do what other games do for elements. just because other games have done it this way does not mean wynn has to. Also ever heard of an earthquake because those a pretty powerful.

 

hahahahahahaha LucaDiv, that was funny.

Every heard of wildfire, Typhoon or any other natural disasters that can deal equal damage as earthquakes? They are pretty destructive too. Thats just the elements. Its normal to have fire = strength and earth = defense.

Btw The Doctem your right about fire not fitting well with
"strength". Strength is actually a combination of all the skills, maybe its called power rather. Strength would then be a definition of both earth and fire, defense and offense. Earth is strength. But fire isn't defense, fire is offense. But its normal and makes sense to think earth = defense and fire = offense. No one uses fire for defense irl. Fire is like a double-edge sword. Defense isn't meant to attack what they are defending. Earth doesn't do that. Earth remains steady and is always in place, thats the idea. But its better than fire, a lot better.

Salted color doesn't say element. Red = danger, makes you look more aggressive and makes the one seeing red more careful as its the color of blood. Thats why stop signs are red and that there are red light. To make the driver more careful. Its something with the human thing that does it, idk that stuff. Red is also a royal color, I think.

If I use the human example as I call it; Fire is very close related to earth and earth doesn't work if you have no will power/fire.

Earth = strength of the body
Fire = Will power
Water = dont know because I'm fire not water
Air = the mind?

Btw Salted, I love wynncraft it's great. The best vanilla (I think) server ever.

 

YES YES THIS, this is how I thought too for the most part! I see fire as a more symbolical definition, in which fire kept us warm during early human history and such.

 

Well every element has a good side. Fire can keep you warm and burn you alive.

After reading you guys' comments I find it that fire = will, and earth = Strength(Defense and Offense).

But no matter what words we use for fire, strength or offense, Fire = Defense makes no sense.

 

To you at least, the developers of Wynncraft are making Wynncraft in their own image, if I were you, I wouldn't be too bothered by a topic like this, besides, if fire and earth were to switch, this would confuse MANY new players, and do we want that? No.

As a certain annoying Pixar movie would say, just LET IT GO already man, just LET GO of this topic, and don't stress yourself over it!

 

Honestly, it is a bit weird but:
1. Its pretty much too late to change it now, just deal with the way it is.
2. Think about this. Would you rather try and put out a fire with your hands, or break a rock with your hands? Either would take a while, but I would choose the rock. Also, if you theoretically had fire as a weapon in your hands and you swung at someone, it may burn them for a second, but it would really just go right past. If you have a rock sword in your hands, it would do some damage

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Oh wait this is basically what I said.

 

The real concern here is how fire+earth builds are underpowered.

 

Ill just say, this really matter? Other things are more important than just 2 elememts that have to be changed... Yes, maybe they are wrong in terms on the real life, but how about in-game? Maybe defensive armours use fire? Maybe fire as defense is used to protect the player against the deadliest element, the fire itself?

 

Ok but is it easier to put out fire than destroy a rock. You don't put it out because it can damage you. And you can't destroy a rock with your hand that easily.
If you want to put out fire, you just need to remove one of the 3 things that makes the fire possible. 1.The source, 2.Oxygen, 3.Temperature. And you can easily remove one of them. But how are you gonna destroy a rock. With a gun? Bazooka? Another rock? Honestly idk how to destroy a rock that has an equal force with putting out fire.

No, it doesn't really. I just wanted to know why fire = defense and earth = strength. When it's normally fire = strength and earth = defense.

Honestly no matter how much I try I just can't find ways to imagine fire being a defense type.