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Double Xp For Vips Feedback - Part 2!

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I'd think it would just be easier and less hassle to bring back 2x xp. With the totem idea its alright but what if for example someone uses one and suddenly they have to go, then they've just wasted one. Also VIPS could use their totems/sheep for trading, for example, I'd activate the double xp in an area in exchange for ... item (Assuming its not just for the person who activated it), which I'm not sure if thats a good thing or not considering they would be getting the double xp for nothing (apart from a 1 time payment for vip).

Edit: Why does it say I'm only VIP? I'm VIP+ lel

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LukeW2464, Dec 7, 2015

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Here's my idea for the golden sheep idea (Because I liked it so much):

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* There could be a golden sheep that you spawn instead of the totems that lasts for 15 minutes aswell

* The sheep will be spawned by "Golden wool" That VIP and VIP+ get every midnight in their "Use menu".

* It will follow you and act like a pet.

* This sheep has a area of 50 blocks around it that gives double xp.

* Now you can actually go to other spots and still have double xp.

* You could change the sheeps colour to for example, green, red, blue, orange and so on.
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this has just way to much downsides :/ it would be cool as something extra but not as the only change for vips in terms of xp

SuperTM, Dec 7, 2015

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Just do double xp for vip, it worked great before! And make pets pick up items and attack

XavierEXE, Dec 7, 2015

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I can already see all the "Friendly_man is friendly to use xp totems"

Great idea :D

Friendly_man, Dec 7, 2015

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great idea salted,
ps i think i know how to bring back attacking pets so it does not break the EULA: the return of voting for gold coins.
this should fix some other problems with this vip crisis thats going on(i am a vip, but i am i nice one so i wish for gold coins for all somehow)

MidnightSeishin, Dec 7, 2015

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Do the totems stack? and is there a max amount of totems you can have?

Waffleeater_153, Dec 7, 2015

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yes and yes, read more carefully it says that(i know its not that clear)

Waffleeater_153 said: ↑

Do the totems stack? and is there a max amount of totems you can have?
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MidnightSeishin, Dec 7, 2015

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Have you thought of a possible way to 'see' this area? What if your grinding area isn't just a cave, but a massive area, you want to know where to stay.
Have you thought about this yet?
(The area should probably only have an effect of sorts for the VIP who placed the totem.)

Cubie, Dec 7, 2015

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Have you thought of a possible way to 'see' this area? What if your grinding area isn't just a cave, but a massive area, you want to know where to stay.
Have you thought about this yet?
(The area should probably only have an effect of sorts for the VIP who placed the totem.)
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It would probably have green-emerald particles around the area. (That maybe only the totem-placer can see)

Cruuk, Dec 7, 2015

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i prefer the golden sheep idea, i miss having actual useful pets :P But this idea works alright too :D

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Does this effect quests?

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This is a great idea in my opinion as it makes it very easy t0 have has VIP or VIP+ and the amount you said for both classess seems resonable as of now. Of course I'm not informed of the mechanics of Gavel as is most people. So far though it seems like a great plan. (Note px_1 indeed lol)

trashguybob, Dec 7, 2015

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Yo people! So as most of you know, I posted this thread a few days ago. I talked about bringing back double XP for VIPs, and asked for your opinions.

I got a lot of feedback about it (thanks y'all!), and I think I might have found a solution that works for everyone. I also made a new thread so my post isn't buried 15 pages deep, because I want your feedback on that one aswell.

Here's how it could work:

Everyday at midnight, VIPs would receive 3-4 Double XP Totems, and VIP+ would receive 6-8 (not decided yet). Each one of those allow you to set an area of 50 blocks around you as double XP for 15 minutes or so. Your max amount of totem will be 3-4 for VIPs and 6-8 for VIPs+, so you won't be able to stack them until you have 200 of them. It should fix most of you guys issues, which were...

Q. This is unfair to non paying players.
A. Doing this means that every player will only get 1h to 2h of double XP a day, maximum. For most people who plays casually, it should be well enough. In the end, it means that a player who plays way more will still gain more XP than a VIP who doesn't play much. So playtime is still the definite factor into who can level up faster.
On top of that, the XP is shared in quite a big area, which brings the next question...

Q. People will annoy VIPs for their totem and steal their grind spot!
A. Since the totems will be limited, it will be much more unlikely to find a VIP with some available. At worst, it also makes it possible for the VIP to lie and say that he used them all already.
And, as I said up there, the fact that the totem won't move allows us to make its range much bigger. Stealing a grind spot would become much harder. Please note that mobs also spawns a bit faster with the Gavel update, and so waiting for mobs to respawn will be much more rare.

So what do you guys think? Let me know if I forgot one crucial thing.

- Salted
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This is really clever; you clever little Einstein you! I like the idea of "Totems" as they seem to fit with the mystical and magic side of Wynn, as well as being incredibly useful to everyone near. The fact that these are limited, and can only be summoned a set amount of times also really helps with the nagging players (unless they're clever enough to figure out that there's no way someone would spend all their totems within a certain amount of time after refresh, but that's probably not going to happen). In ways of getting players to buy Ranks more often, as well as returning an old feature, this is definitely the way to go.

Side Note: In Hypixel's game: Warlords, there are totems that certain classes can spawn. These are essentially re-textured blocks (or something) which means that "Double XP Totems" could be re-textured to look cooler in Gavel.

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Salted said: ↑

Yo people! So as most of you know, I posted this thread a few days ago. I talked about bringing back double XP for VIPs, and asked for your opinions.

I got a lot of feedback about it (thanks y'all!), and I think I might have found a solution that works for everyone. I also made a new thread so my post isn't buried 15 pages deep, because I want your feedback on that one aswell.

Here's how it could work:

Everyday at midnight, VIPs would receive 3-4 Double XP Totems, and VIP+ would receive 6-8 (not decided yet). Each one of those allow you to set an area of 50 blocks around you as double XP for 15 minutes or so. Your max amount of totem will be 3-4 for VIPs and 6-8 for VIPs+, so you won't be able to stack them until you have 200 of them. It should fix most of you guys issues, which were...

Q. This is unfair to non paying players.
A. Doing this means that every player will only get 1h to 2h of double XP a day, maximum. For most people who plays casually, it should be well enough. In the end, it means that a player who plays way more will still gain more XP than a VIP who doesn't play much. So playtime is still the definite factor into who can level up faster.
On top of that, the XP is shared in quite a big area, which brings the next question...

Q. People will annoy VIPs for their totem and steal their grind spot!
A. Since the totems will be limited, it will be much more unlikely to find a VIP with some available. At worst, it also makes it possible for the VIP to lie and say that he used them all already.
And, as I said up there, the fact that the totem won't move allows us to make its range much bigger. Stealing a grind spot would become much harder. Please note that mobs also spawns a bit faster with the Gavel update, and so waiting for mobs to respawn will be much more rare.

So what do you guys think? Let me know if I forgot one crucial thing.

- Salted
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You forgot one part:

What's to make the VIP's not hold onto his totems and sell them for emeralds?

BlahBlah161616, Dec 7, 2015

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Salted said: ↑

Yo people! So as most of you know, I posted this thread a few days ago. I talked about bringing back double XP for VIPs, and asked for your opinions.

I got a lot of feedback about it (thanks y'all!), and I think I might have found a solution that works for everyone. I also made a new thread so my post isn't buried 15 pages deep, because I want your feedback on that one aswell.

Here's how it could work:

Everyday at midnight, VIPs would receive 3-4 Double XP Totems, and VIP+ would receive 6-8 (not decided yet). Each one of those allow you to set an area of 50 blocks around you as double XP for 15 minutes or so. Your max amount of totem will be 3-4 for VIPs and 6-8 for VIPs+, so you won't be able to stack them until you have 200 of them. It should fix most of you guys issues, which were...

Q. This is unfair to non paying players.
A. Doing this means that every player will only get 1h to 2h of double XP a day, maximum. For most people who plays casually, it should be well enough. In the end, it means that a player who plays way more will still gain more XP than a VIP who doesn't play much. So playtime is still the definite factor into who can level up faster.
On top of that, the XP is shared in quite a big area, which brings the next question...

Q. People will annoy VIPs for their totem and steal their grind spot!
A. Since the totems will be limited, it will be much more unlikely to find a VIP with some available. At worst, it also makes it possible for the VIP to lie and say that he used them all already.
And, as I said up there, the fact that the totem won't move allows us to make its range much bigger. Stealing a grind spot would become much harder. Please note that mobs also spawns a bit faster with the Gavel update, and so waiting for mobs to respawn will be much more rare.

So what do you guys think? Let me know if I forgot one crucial thing.

- Salted
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I like this better than the golden sheep idea. :)

FlamingPinecone, Dec 7, 2015

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BlahBlah161616 said: ↑

You forgot one part:

What's to make the VIP's not hold onto his totems and sell them for emeralds?
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I think totems are meant to be an item you use like bombs, not a physical block you place in the world

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What if players server hop on popular grinding spots until they find a spot where there is a vip using a totem pole, and they are a higher level and just steal all the kills for themselves? What if that vip wants double xp to apply to quests? What if that VIP is forced to change servers and they are short-changed of their remaining time? Does the remaining time stay there for the person who took their spot? It would be so much easier to just simply go back to the old way and give premiums XP boosts. Not only would this be easier to implement, but it would solve so many problems.

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What if players server hop on popular grinding spots until they find a spot where there is a vip using a totem pole, and they are a higher level and just steal all the kills for themselves? What if that vip wants double xp to apply to quests? What if that VIP is forced to change servers and they are short-changed of their remaining time? Does the remaining time stay there for the person who took their spot? It would be so much easier to just simply go back to the old way and give premiums XP boosts. Not only would this be easier to implement, but it would solve so many problems.
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That's why the "totem-bearer" should get 2x and the other people get 1.25 or 1.5x

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That's why the "totem-bearer" should get 2x and the other people get 1.25 or 1.5x
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Why? The people would still be getting more than their normal XP so why would they not steal a grinding spot?

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What will happen to x2 xp bombs? Assuming this does happen, will they still exist/be tweaked?

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