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Assassin/Ninja Help Endgame Build

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by _Freed, Jan 6, 2017.

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  1. Kawaii__Turtle

    Kawaii__Turtle Kawaiiest of Turtles CHAMPION

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    Specialist is only really decent with a tank build, or to supplement a build with a damage type you don't have, adding 50% more of a damage when you already have +650% doesn't really do much
     
  2. C2HWarrior

    C2HWarrior Well-Known Adventurer

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    i never said it was good m8. i said it was better than roulette
     
  3. Kawaii__Turtle

    Kawaii__Turtle Kawaiiest of Turtles CHAMPION

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    Specialist
    80*7.5 = 600
    Roulette
    66*10.1 = 666.6

    That's the maximum damage either of those can do
    Now correct me, and all of math, if I'm wrong, but 666.6 is a larger number than 600, so Roulette can do more damage
    Specialist also just kind of sucks since you have to use ~20le of powders on it to get that damage, whereas Roulette requires 0le to do that damage, you just have to acquire it
     
  4. C2HWarrior

    C2HWarrior Well-Known Adventurer

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    do the average damage then come back to me
     
  5. ElegantDeath

    ElegantDeath Who needs a title anyways HERO

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    I speak from experience
    Roulette is a steaming crap once you reach even mid 80s
    Specialist with max or near max thunder and some dex boosts can pump out low hundreds to 2kish dps
    now that's not counting per hit but with 2t6s and som dex and a 650% specialist and if you're using a specialist with high thunder you should probs pair that with a thunder setup
    so spin attack will pump out many thousands of damage and melee will be decent
    so roulette < specialist because specialist is better for spells and decent damage
     
  6. creature

    creature Uncorrupt, so possibly serving Dern

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    Sorry to say, but %melee and %elemental damage work additive instead of multiplicative.

    Meaning that the formula for roulette's max damage = 5.45 x 33 x 3 (455% thunder damage on the 33 thunder damage, 455% melee damage on the 33 thunder damage and 455% melee damage on the 33 melee damage.) = 539,55 --> 540

    (I use a 441% melee damage, 448% thunder damage roulette in game and the damage here seems more like it.)
    + the specialist can have a charged special

    So yeah....
    Than again, let's not forget that there's an 18 level difference in between these two items.
     
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