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SPOILER Lore Timeline Inconsistencies

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Sad_In_Physics, Nov 28, 2023.

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  1. Sad_In_Physics

    Sad_In_Physics Frenzied Flame HERO

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    I've been replaying the entire game on a new class to Experience the 2.0 update to its fullest but as I've gotten back to the Silent Expanse I've noticed a few things.

    Firstly, in the updated Aldorei's Secret Part II quest it is shown at the end that Elder Prometheus is responsible for all the portals being activated when he opened the light portal. So if all the portals opened at the same time and we know that the Corruption Portal opened in 0 AP (because obvious).

    So that means that the portal to Dern (darkness) opened at 0 AP as well according to this quest. But that conflicts a lot of the lore stated in the Silent Expanse in its discoveries. It says it one of the discoveries that in 800 BP the miners discovered the 4 crystals in the Silent Expanse. So if the miners broken into the expanse that early they shouldn't have encountered anything that would have made them seal it shut since the Dern portal shouldn't have been opened then. Also on that same line of thinking the Olm only left the expanse because of the portal opening and the Beast. So if that happened in 0 AP that puts the Olm in a weird position where they don't feel as ancient anymore and also should have bumped into those Miners in 800 BP.

    These discrepancies are most likely just conflicts that have arisen from new updated quests clashing with older content but I do hope this gets explained or changed in a way that makes more sense. I feel like having all the portals open in 0 AP makes sense but the events of the silent expanse getting overtaken by Dern feel much more ancient that 0 Ap.

    Let me know what you think?
     
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    It isn't said very well, but in Aldorei's Secret Part II, it's actually the parasite that Dern gets in 0 AP as a result of the events shown in the quest. The Nameless likely opened the Dern Portal.
     
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    Wasn’t the dern portal opened from some sort of chain reaction when the light portal opened? Or was that only the realm of war portal?

    in this case the dern portal would open in 0 AP and the plot hole remains
     
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    realm of war portal and the parasite.
     
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    All 3 portals opened in 0 ap
     
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    The Dern portal did also open, they just don't show it because it would spoil the silent expanse
     
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    #TheWikiLiedToMe
     
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    The Wiki didn't lie a damn thing to you
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    #IMisreadSomethingOnTheWikiElsewhere.
     
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    There isn't any discrepancies here. You have a fair bit of lore details wrong that give way to it potentially seeming like there's an issue, when there isn't.
    Firstly, the Olm are incredibly ancient. Though the crystals are found in 800 BP, this is because the Olm used them to leave The Realm of Darkness after they were pulled into it, which they documented in scrawlings you can find in secret chambers in Wynnexcavation D.
    Though Elder Prometheus did open the portals, its a not too uncommon misconception that this action is what caused "The War of The Realms", or that it's the first time they've been open. The War of the Realms has been raging since before time begun -- something outright stated by the Light Forest Ultimate -- Prometheus simply opened the floodgates for the consequences of that eternal war to leave their modern marks upon the world. The Silent Expanse has been under the influence of Dern for a lot longer than a thousand years, just as The Light Forests, which thrived even before Prometheus' sin.
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    Void Holes aren't Realm Portals. Even if the quest didn't outright say it opened the Dern Portal (and in earlier builds during beta, outright show it opening in Pathway to Darkness), that's still a big reach
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    (no clue why it isn't in Ancient Wynnic)
     
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    By realm of dern does it mean the silent expanse, where their city is, or from the actual portal?
     
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    Yeah this is quite ambiguous, what do they mean by realm of Dern. Do they imply silent expanse, or did the Olm get literally sucked into the darkness realm.
     
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    I mean Dern, The Realm of Darkness. The Silent Expanse isn't Dern.
    Just as there is a Realm of Light, there is a Realm of Dark.
     
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    I understand this, I just didn’t know that they actually entered into dern, where is this stated?
     
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    Literally four posts above
     
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    The olm aren’t native to dern, though, is it stated in the game where they got sucked into dern?
     
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    I mean one can probably make a theory regarding that given that Olm, TNA and the AHC Skeleton all have/ are black skeletons

    Them originating from Dern isn't too far of a reach to be honest
     
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    Maybe we’ll see when we get a timelost sanctum quest
     
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    I doubt it, revealing lore layout the realm of darkness in a quest that comes before you even learn about the war of realms would be weird
     
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    Oh I see, so a long time ago the Dern Beast invaded the silent expanse. So this happened way before any of the events we are aware off I'm assuming. I guess my question is was the portal opened during this time to allow the Beast to conquer the silent expanse or did the Dern Beast just will its way into the silent expanse without the portal being opened.
     
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