Hotfix 2.0.3 - Hotfix #3

Yes it is especially considering you can get good mythics after you complete quests

 

Doesn’t mean it should change

 

right next to the forlorn library defense challenge at 865 101 -335, there's a loot chest currently encased in barriers. you are unable to access it because of the cheese spots removal. also the barriers on that one eye tree above the forest slay challenge will block you from moving over them while not in a challenge, same with the void arch >.> a better solution is desperately needed

 

Yeah not a fan.
Just did a couple lootruns with my archer blotslinger that has around 30k ehp. After challenge 8 I get one shot from many mobs at several fighting and defend challenges, the spelunk ones are still fine imo.
I get that constantly getting 100+ pulls, 10 reroll runs might be a bit OP, but max i have gotten after the update is 21 pulls, 2 rerolls which give nothing, or at least take forever to get anything remotely good.
As others have said, very shortsighted update, if you don't want to have cheese spots, thats fine. But in that case, remove the pull ability from the mobs, and don't crowd the arena so much so that you cant have any free room to move around without getting hit.
Guess i have to level up warrior to have fun.

 

Counterpoint, spending hours hoping for a good orange beacon roll or alternatively playing 50 runs you know aren't going past 6 challenges in order to attempt an aqua stack is simply not fun. nerfing mage and archer to the ground makes all these problems a lot worse, but it's still a ridiculous amount of time sink (as someone who has sunk a LOT of time into the camps).

 

as an archer, i fully agree with the complaints said
its impossible now to get close, and i already tried leveling warrior but its pretty boring and sad that u need to level up a new class just to have a chance at lootrunning
its like you now need to do something boring (leveling a new class) just to have some fun, repeating an endless task of starting a new lr, winning, repeat
doesnt make sense that archer is just not viable anymore for an "endgame" lootrun update

 

Wanted to add an additional point, that a lot of the safe spots weren't simply "nothing can hurt me" buttons. Ranged attacks can still hit, and more importantly, pull spells could still hit, and the combination of which means I've been thrown off of these spots more times than I can count. So again, what is the point of removing these spots from the game if they were already balanced to a degree (and absolutely necessary for certain classes to function in a lootrun setting)? I hope the wynn team creates some sort of alternative for these ranged-primary classes to still be viable if they're committed to this change, but I doubt it will happen.
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what were the abusable macros?

 

Ok

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I’m just sayin this cuz I don’t have 23 idols or whatever and I don’t survive for 70-140 challenges

 

my battle monk that doesn't use macros is much harder to use at high cps. pleasseee revert or make the cps high enough for non macro users and not abusable for them.

 

Something not included in this list is that all lootrun-related sprites got changed. The saturation has been lowered, look:

Spoiler: Before

Spoiler: After

Yes, people complained that the art style didn't fit and should be changed, but now it just looks washed out. I'm not a big fan of it.
More importantly, please just include all the changes in the hotfix. If something fairly visible like this isn't included, I can only wonder what other things aren't included either.

 

We never can be satisfied can we

 

I just feel that its dumb that lootrunning is more luck based than skill based
it should be luck based in the rewards, not in the gameplay
imagine if tna had a room where you'd wait 15 minutes doing nothing

people always complain whenever there are updates

 

I'm dissatisfied due to the lack of transparency, the actual texture change isn't that big of a deal

 

Lootrunning as a mage got killed from barriers being in random spots way up in the air couldn't teleport at all cause I have to move around blocks wasted a couple minutes of the lootrun timer, and there is barriers around a chest near a lootrun objective wasted a minute try to jump up to it to get my open chest stacks. Please remove the barriers that are up 40 blocks above in the air and remove the barriers around chests, do you guys even look at the placement of your barriers around chests 0 way to get to it no matter what not even above barriers go way to far up.

 

WORK ON FRUMA ALREADY

 

"Lootrunning as mage/archer is dead"

Just lr in Corkus KEKW

 

Until they put them in corkus too lol

 

As if Corkus wasn’t agonizing to lootrun enough

 

Imo this is good change. Mage, archer and shaman are worse now but assasin never actually was able to use the safe spots so it creates balance. Meyby they should nerf a damage of mobs a bit to make mage not useless. Also if you are good archer player you can fly what meny lootruners does. And saing that this is unfair because archer is now bad at lootruns, and this is unfair, in old lootruns assasin and shaman was useless and no-one was complaining.