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Worst/best Abilities for each Class

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  1. FelixTape

    FelixTape BRuh Item Team CHAMPION

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    Discussion thread for deciding on the worst and best abilities for all 5 trees, not particularly for the sake of petitioning for buffs or nerfs, but just to shed light on what is generally seen as the worst and best 2-3 abilities on every tree, just for the sake of it.

    My personal choices are below to spark conversation, please feel free to bring up your own or add to these if they're also your picks.


    Warrior:

    Worst: Flyby Jab
    This one actually does have function for flying kick damage builds, but only contribute 40% multiplier to the kick over Heavy Impact's 100%, and isn't that great earlygame either as the default spells are just sorta better.
    I miss inspire.

    Best: Enraged Blow
    I've actually seen multiple people wonder why Enraged Blow is getting nerfed in 2.0.1, so I'd like to show you an example of why.

    Uppercut damage with max earth powder rage, Fortitude (Fortitude overwrites Ragnarokkr's 30% unless I'm wrong, in which case that's an extra 20k), Armor Breaker, and Radiance applied, but with zero Corruption and therefore no Enraged Blow:

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    Uppercut damage on the same build with JUST 100% corruption Enraged Blow:

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    Archer:

    Worst: Elusive

    A lot of people really hate arrow storm recoil and bomb self-damage, but I really don't think between the activation method, reliance on agility, the range at which boltslinger plays at, and the 2 AP cost, I can never justify using this on either of my slingas because the recoil is never what kills you as a boltslinger.

    Best: Frenzy

    Archer realistically has like 5 "best" abilities to me personally, but Frenzy tops them by being able to keep an archer alive on just about any tree setup. This kind of walk speed will alive regardless of if you have only Nimble String, Arrow Hurricane, Guardian Angels, Bryophyte Roots, doesn't matter.



    Assassin:

    Worst: Death Magnet

    I'll be honest I've never even used this but I've heard and can tell why this is really bad.

    Best: Marked

    I found it odd to consider Vanish assassin's best ability because it really more feels like a part of the kit itself with how many abilities require it, so I'm going with marked because of the massive damage increase. Jasmine Bloom is a very close second.



    Shaman:

    Worst: Seeking Totem

    Actively impedes doing just about anything with Fanatic on. It does get points for meme potential though.

    Best: Regeneration

    Pretty obvious go-to choice, doesn't require any exchange like Sacrificial Shrine does and is consistent and good regardless of totem count.



    Mage:

    Worst: Dynamic Faith

    This would probably be pretty good if Sprint Max was on more than 15 relevant endgame items.

    Best: Mana Storm

    Free sustain as long as you have INT so this is sort of a given, but if I had to choose a second it'd be Breathless for its absurd damage boost for Riftwalker, Lightbender, and even 10 max winded Arcanist trees.
     
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  2. YYGAYMER

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    Don't forget Twisted Tether... the suicide ability.....
    When I want to try Blood Sorrow, this gets in my way smh!!
     
  3. lemonalade

    lemonalade [insert misinformation here] CHAMPION

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    As much as I hate Seeking Totem, Mask of Awakened feels like the worst ability for Shaman imo, especially with new Lunatic nerf
     
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    Yep, especially if you manage to combine it with delirious gas it will be a great combo
     
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    nip nop thinking hurts CHAMPION

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    Enraged Blow is definitely the best pick for warrior, but I feel like Whirlwind Strike deserves an honorable mention for the insane AOE and mobility it provides.

    While it has an incredibly hard to maintain requisite to use it, it at the very least is situationally useful and works well when it does at all. I find it hard to call it the worst archer ability when actual filler abilities like Shrapnel Bomb, and if you want to count white tiers (I don't think we should), Traveler, Rocket Jump, and Better Arrow Shield exist. Arrow Rain and Escape Artist are also basically useless now after their rework a couple hotfixes ago. When can we lower Boltslinger max single target DPS and make recoil optional?

    Frenzy is a good pick, and while you can take it with any archetype, if you want to use it with Sharpshooter you're forced to take Triple Shots which ruins Focus unless you just don't melee at all which is a massive caveat. Personally I'd say Focus is the best even after its nerf, as just abusing Escape also can keep any archer alive.

    It's a must pick for any non-Acolyte build, but does that really make it the best? Crimson Effigy and Mask of the Lunatic make up the majority of Summoner and Ritualist DPS respectively, and while Acolyte needs to use a couple other abilities for synergy, I find it hard not to put Sacrificial Shrine as the best.
     
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  6. EpsilonDown

    EpsilonDown Vibing to TNA theme HERO

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    When Backstab had shorter range, death magnet was basically suicide ability because the boss can attack you at zero range
     
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    Enclaire Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    imo, intoxicating blood is also SUPER good for solo grinding on early game since its basically saying bye to sustain problem, well you automatically get enraged blow if youre going for this soo yeah
     
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    I feel like Whirlwind Strike might be more popular, though yes, enraged blow is busted.
     
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    heyheyheyhey
    nice pretty cool
    what why is sacrificial shrine not number 1
     
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    nkklk Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    because sacrificial shrine is a double-edged sword that requires at least two other abilities (Fluid Healing and Rebounding Aura) to be moderately useful
     
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    FelixTape BRuh Item Team CHAMPION

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    intoxicating blood is like one of the slept on things even if you don't get full restores after a successful run of corruption. sitting at 30%, you can turn on corruption, kill a couple mobs, and you've healed anywhere from 5-70%
     
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    If we're talking about major nodes for mage, I'd say one of the worst is Snake Nest. Snake Nest overwrites Sentient Snake (the one that makes snake follow your cursor), and the spread between the 3 ice snakes is absolutely ridiculous, meaning you have to get up REAL close to a boss to get any value out of it. It doesn't help that ice snake's hitbox is much smaller than what it was in 1.20 (seriously its hitbox needs a buff). Only possible use I can see from this is niche Flashfreeze Arcanist builds for quickly building manabank, and even then it is woefully outclassed by Thunderstorm.

    At least radiant devotee doesn't actively impede one of your major spells
     
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  13. FelixTape

    FelixTape BRuh Item Team CHAMPION

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    heavy agree, snake nest angle needs to be tightened very badly
     
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    Aftershokke Meow?

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    i agree with everything here except one, im just gonna argue that as an assassin main i believe lacerate is actually better than marked

    why, uh you have tons of mobility with its a great ability for spell combo (or even one of the best), again with the mobility theres flight witch unlocks much more options like being able to easily skip parkour, manuver around enemies and terrain and theres also a decent amount of dmg (270% base but can be 360%)

    well the flight is slow in the live servers atm but in beta its actually buffed so theres no delay when u cast lacerete so the flight speed is much faster maybe charge spam level idk
     
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  15. GlitchPlay

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    Snake Nest doesn't overwrite sentient snake, you can still angle the snakes
     
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    FelixTape BRuh Item Team CHAMPION

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    What they mean is having both of these abilities at once is a waste of AP, having the ability to angle the 3 snakes doesn't make much of a difference in hitting mobs as there's 3 of them.
     
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