Info Item Team Thread - Item/ingredient/major Id Changes, Updates & More

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Hey everyone,

With the beta coming soon, we are here to make clear what the changes to item values of mana regen/steal and spell cost values will be as mana has become out of 100:

Mana regen values have been multiplied by 6
Mana steal values have been multiplied by 4
Raw spell cost values have been multiplied by 5
Percent spell cost values have been reduced by 30%

Spoiler: Previous Multiplier Archive

Mana regen, mana steal, and raw spell cost base values have all been multiplied by 5; spell cost % values have been reduced by 30%.

We are keeping everything at these baselines for now to gauge feedback during beta, and this is very very likely to change based on how it goes.

UPDATE 8/8/22: Mana regen and mana steal values now have their own separate multipliers of 6 and 4 respectively. The following items still use the original multipliers of 5 unless mana changes are otherwise documented:

Spoiler: Items exempt from mana changes unless otherwise noted:

All Mythics, Conduit of Spirit, Gigabyte, Deux, Soulflare, Alternator, Cloak of Luminosity, Bantisu's Approach, Metamorphosis, Hive Weapons, Tragedy, WitherString, Scytodidae, Hard Light, Lunar Spine, Exhibition, Anima-Infused Cuirass

The exception to this at the start of the beta will be mythics. Many of you have anticipated that mana/spell cost base changes would occur and voiced concern -- please know that we have heard (and concur with) these concerns. In this round of changes, we tried to prevent as much value-affecting changes from happening as much as possible (especially unrollable base 1 from becoming rollable). Here are the changes:

Spoiler: Mythic changes:

Pure
manaSteal: 4 -> 20
spellCostRaw3: 1 -> 0

Resurgence
manaRegen: 6 -> 30

Galleon
manaSteal: 4 -> 20

Boreal
manaRegen: 2 -> 10

Freedom
manaRegen: 2 -> 10

Olympic
spellCostRaw1: -2 -> -10
spellCostRaw2: -2 -> -10

Guardian
manaRegen: 1 -> 1
Guardian (major ID): 50% -> 20% of damage taken by nearby allies is redirected to you

Hadal
rawSpellCost3: 1 -> 0
rawSpellCost4: 1 -> 0
spellCostPct3: 56 -> 112
spellCostPct4: 56 -> 112
manaRegen: 6 -> 30

Nullification
manaSteal: 3 -> 16

Idol
manaRegen: 2 -> 10
spellCostRaw2: -10 -> -50

Dawnbreak
manaSteal: 3 -> 12

Cataclysm
spellCostRaw1: -1 -> -1

Grimtrap
manaSteal: -2 -> -10
spellCostRaw2: 1 -> 1
spellCostRaw4: -2 -> -10

Weathered
agilityBonus: 20 -> 15
manaSteal: 3 -> 16

Thrundacrack
spellCostRaw3: -1 -> -4

Lament
manaSteal: 8 -> 40

Toxoplasmosis
manaSteal: 4 -> 18

Stardew
manaSteal: 3 -> 15
manaRegen: -3 -> -9

Divzer
manaSteal: 6 -> 30

Inferno
manaRegen: -1 -> -1
spellCostRaw1: -1 -> -1

Nirvana
manaRegen: 2 -> 10
manaSteal: -4 -> -20
Transcendence: 50% -> 30% chance for spells to cost no mana when casted

Collapse
manaSteal: 4 -> 18

Gaia
spellCostRaw4: -3 -> -9

Absolution
manaRegen: 3 -> 16
spellCostRaw1: -4 -> -20

Spring
strengthBonus: 20 -> 15
intelligenceBonus: 20 -> 15
dexterityBonus: -50 -> -40
manaRegen: 3 -> 30
spellCostRaw3: -1 -> 0
spellCostRaw4: 1 -> 0

Monster
manaSteal: 2 -> 10
spellCostRaw1: 1 -> 4

Revenant:
manaSteal: 2 -> 10

Fatal
manaSteal: 1 -> 1

Warp
manaRegen: -9 -> -45
spellCostRaw1: 1 -> 4
spellCostRaw2: -100 -> -299

Oblivion
manaRegen: -10 -> -30
manaSteal: 1 -> 15
spellCostRaw2: -4 -> -20

Epoch
manaSteal: -1 -> -1
spellCostRaw1: -1 -> -1
spellCostRaw4: -1 -> -1
spellDamageBonus: 20 -> 40

Fantasia
fireDamage: 215-325 -> 185-295
waterDamage: 230-310 -> 200-280
airDamage: 245-295 -> 215-265
thunderDamage: 260-280 -> 230-250
earthDamage: 200-340 -> 170-310
manaRegen: -4 -> -20
manaSteal: -4 -> -20

Slayer
waterDefense: 0 -> -100

Immolation
spellCostPct3: -23 -> -14

Convergence
spellCostPct3: -75 -> -45

We also have a set of additional changes for nonmythic items that don't involve the baseline mana and spell cost adjustments that we anticipate will need adjustments for the start of the beta here:

Spoiler: Other changes:

Roulette
thunderDamage: 0-80 -> 0-58

Medeis
spellDamage: 15 -> 8
fireDamageBonus: 15 -> 8
waterDamageBonus: 15 -> 8
thunderDamageBonus: 15 -> 8

Prowess
strengthPoints: 5 -> 4
dexterityPoints: 5 -> 4
intelligencePoints: 5 -> 4
defensePoints: 5 -> 4
agilityPoints: 5 -> 4

Caesura
intelligencePoints: 25 -> 15

The Nothing
spellDamageBonus: 61600 -> 0
mainAttackDamageBonus: 14000 -> 0
spellFireDamageBonusRaw: 0 -> 500
spellThunderDamageBonusRaw: 0 -> 500
spellAirDamageBonusRaw: 0 -> 500

Gigabyte
manaRegen: 0 -> -4
spellDamageBonus: 4 -> 0
mainAttackDamageBonus: 4 -> 0

Pro Tempore
spellDamageBonusRaw: 130 -> 104

Orange Lily
waterDamage: 165-275 -> 165-235
earthDamage: 165-275 -> 165-235
spellCostRaw3: -15 -> -5

Brainwash
manaRegen: 4 -> 10
manaSteal: 4 -> 15

Second Wind
thunderDefense: -300 -> -350
earthDefense: 0 -> -350
lifeSteal: -400 -> -475

Cumulonimbus
spellDamageBonus: 25 -> 15

Morrowind
spellDamageBonusRaw: 125 -> 145

Boreal-Patterned Crown
manaRegen: 1 -> 8

Corsair
intelligencePoints: -16 -> 0

Scaldsteppers
spellCostRaw1: 0 -> -3
manaSteal: 1 -> 0

Large Lapis
Spell Damage: 6 to 10 -> 4 to 6
Intelligence Points: -10 to -6 -> -6 to -4
Durability: -85 -> -103

Charging Flame
spellCostRaw2: 0 -> -12

Aphotic
spellCostRaw3: 0 -> -3

Silent Ballet
spellCostRaw1: -200 -> -400
spellCostRaw2: -200 -> -400
spellCostRaw3: -200 -> -400
spellCostRaw4: -200 -> -400

Rhythm of the Seasons
spellCostRaw3: 5 -> 0

Sorrow
spellCostRaw1: 0 -> -5

Condensation
spellCostRaw3: 0 -> -3

Augoeides
spellCostRaw3: 0 -> -3

Matryoshka Shell
spellCostRaw1: 0 -> -3

Guillotine
health: 3100 -> 1000
healthBonus: -1429 -> -1337

Prayer
spellCostRaw3: 0 -> -3

Symphony
spellCostRaw4: 0 -> -3

Aquarius
spellCostRaw1: 0 -> -7

Steamstone
defense: 25 -> 45
intelligence: 25 -> 45
spellCostRaw3: 0 -> -3
spellCostRaw4: 0 -> -2

Leviathan
spellCostRaw3: 0 -> -3

The Courier's Cape
agility: 80 -> 70

Ambivalence
spellDamageBonus: 250 -> 50
waterDamageBonus: 50 -> 25
spellCostPct1: 130 -> 100
spellCostPct2: 85 -> 100
spellCostPct3: 130 -> 100

Conduit of Spirit
manaSteal: 15 -> 10
spellCostRaw3: 0 -> -5
spellCostRaw4: 0 -> -5
bonusAirDamage: 20 -> 25
reflection: 20 -> 25

Ossuary
intelligence: -20 -> 0
spellCostPct3: -15 -> 0
spellCostRaw3: 0 -> -3

Far Cosmos
spellCostPct2: -1 -> -6

Ophiolite
spellCostRaw1: 0 -> -3
exploding: 30 -> 0

Ionosphere
spellCostRaw1: 0 -> -3

Dragon's Eye Bracelet
spellCostRaw3: -1 -> -3

Draoi Fair
spellCostRaw1: -1 -> -3

Renda Langit
spellCostRaw2: -1 -> -3
spellCostRaw4: -1 -> -3

Cloudwalkers
spellCostRaw1: 0 -> -3

Harmony
spellCostRaw3: 0 -> -3

Electro Mage Boots
spellCostRaw1: -5 -> -4
spellCostRaw2: 5 -> 4
spellCostRaw3: -5 -> -4

Chain Rule
spellCostRaw1: -5 -> -4
spellCostRaw2: -5 -> -4
spellCostRaw3: -5 -> -4
spellCostRaw4: -5 -> -4

Alternator
manaSteal: 10 -> 12

Lunar Spine
manaRegen: -330 -> -333
manaSteal: 110 -> 132

Cloak of Luminosity
manaRegen: 5 -> 6
manaSteal: 5 -> 6
bonusThunderDamage: 5 -> 4
bonusWaterDamage: 5 -> 4

Rapids
spellCostRaw2: 0 -> -5

Metamorphosis
manaRegen: -5 -> -4
manaSteal: -5 -> -4

Updraft
dexterity: 45 -> 0
agility: 0 -> 45

Equalizer
manaRegen: 5 -> 6
manaSteal: 5 -> 6

Shockwave
dexterity: 50 -> 30
agility: 50 -> 30

Tephra
strength: 40 -> 25
defense: 35 -> 20

Logistics
spellCostRaw1: 5 -> 3
spellCostRaw3: 5 -> 3
spellCostRaw4: -5 -> -6

Corkian Jet Boots
spellCostRaw2: 0 -> -8

Steamjet Walkers
spellCostRaw2: 0 -> -4

Aldorei's Vision (rework)
slots: 2
waterDamage: 45-60
airDamage: 45-60
attackSpeed: SLOW

level: 82
agility: 65

agilityPoints: 7
manaRegen: 6
lifeSteal: -150
speed: 15
reflection: 15
soulPoints: 15
spellCostRaw1: -6
spellDamage: -30
spellDamageRaw: -100

Hard Light
manaRegen: 5 -> 9
manaSteal: 5 -> 9

Stolen Pearls
Stealing: 6 to 10-> 2 to 5

Spoiler: 2.0 Item Changes:

Charm of the Void
damageFromMobs: 40 -> 12

Atomizer
health: 3450 -> 4350

Exhibition
manaRegen: -4 -> -10

Detachment
spellCostPct4: -13 -> -19

Onyx Anchor
spellCostPct1: 14 -> 20
spellCostPct3: 14 -> 20

Roridula
spellCostPct4: 14 -> 20

Anaerobic
spellCostRaw1: -8 -> -3
strengthBonus: 12 -> 0

Wasteland Azalea
spellCostRaw3: -6 -> -3

Exhibition
Renamed to Collection, and has a new design!

Forbearance
dexterityPoints: 6 -> 5
intelligencePoints: 6 -> 5

Please again note that everything outlined here (current mana/spell cost values, mythics, and the additional changes) is going to be revisited and likely changed during beta. We are keeping everything at these baselines for now to gauge feedback as we also continue to test ourselves. We also are definitely open to hearing ideas on better ways to change the mythics, and will continuously evaluate the decisions we made on them now.

-The IMs

PS: We also have some new IMs! Please welcome @touhoku and @btdmaster to the IM team!

 

why is idol not getting more - second spell cost?

 

altakar awesome

 

It is getting more (-10 -> -50), our mistake, alta will edit post soon

 

weird question, but why not just remove the x/5 part from Mana Regen?

 

Good The Nothing change

 

where are my crabs nerfs?

 

wow congrats @btdmaster @touhoku on IM, yoiu are so good!

 

so true

 

considering meteor no longer cancels itself in 2.0, it may be good to consider ditching the 3rd spell cost as pure no longer has its main advantage

 

Any ingredient changes ?

 

Not a bad idea - we will discuss what happens here when we figure out the major ID stuff. Same kinda goes for anything in this position

 

besides large lapis, no. rest of changes (similar to items) will wait till beta. all mana regen/steal has been multiplied by x5 of course for ingredients for the new base though.

 

no quetz buff? im literally crying rn :(

also really good prowess change

 

No Hadal buff... Turbo sad. Especially given the int nerf.

 

rip prowess :(

 

LARGE LAPIS AND BRAINWASH NERF LETS GOOO

 

Same thing with warp? That’s only like 3x instead of 5x ;-;

Or is -raw cost going to work like in 1.20? Where it goes to just 1 if it’s below 0?

Ig that also brings up what’s going to happen if you use spells successively, how much extra mana they’ll cost etc