Warrior/Knight Would like collapse build

For raids mostly and maybe warring. 50k+ ehp and crafteds are allowed.

 

Hmm, let me see...

I will say I haven't really done these in guild wars or in raids but it works decent for everyday playing from what I've used of it. The biggest issue with them though and probably any warrior build is ranged attacks are probably your bane.

First I would start with the tierstack builds. Quite often, you will see it with Scarlet Veil for obvious reasons. Explosive Impact works very well against groups of enemies so for crowd control, these builds are great at it. The only major downside I have always noticed is that it is difficult to get one with a decent health sustain.

This one is primarily meant to be used with RotS for a health sustain. Just be sure to have a Nether's Scar with an hpr % over 100.
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u30ZS0kT0VN0Jf0Xr0K40OH0QT1z0+0Z1X0y1g00001001iO

For this, you would use Undying instead.
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u30ZS0kT0720Jf0Xr0K40OH0QT1k0t0Z1f0y1g00001001iO

And for this, it uses Greed but in order for it to be of real use, it uses Crusade Sabatons and a crafted ring. Credit to Diamond Laser/White Wolf for this one.
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/#4_0u...K40uH0QT230e0e1a0t1g010000C10036C10036C1006CC

Next would be spell builds. While not as fun and probably not quite what Collapse is meant for mainly, it still is viable for spell builds. These ones are hybrid builds and not specifically a spell spam or a spell steal btw. Unlike tierstack builds, spell is much easier to get hp sustain.

To start, it's going to be the cheap ones. This one has a decent defense but a better offense.

The more expensive ones, this one has a decent damage but a great defense.
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Au0K70FT0QW0K20Fx0K40OM0QT1z0e1h1d0e1g000010036C

While this one does not exactly fill your ehp requirement, I thought I'd mention it since it has a decent hp sustain but it packs a pretty good punch for a spell Collapse build.
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Au0K70FT0Qx0nu0Xr0E10Ji0QT1G111f0y0e1g000010036C

Edit: Fixed a few of the spell builds and they will be posted below here.

This one is a little on the low end for ehp but it's tolerable. This one is more of a damage dealer than anything and most of its hp sustain is in ls with some in hpr.
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Au0K70FT0tv0Fx0TQ0K40OH0QT1G0e2B1R0e1g000010036C

This one has damage more towards the low end but it makes up for that with a bit more ehp than the previous build and has a lot of hpr and ls. This one is more akin to a spell steal due to its reliance on ms and ls for the majority of its mana and hp.
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Au0K70FT0Aw0Fx0TQ0K40OH0QT1G0m2B1R0e1g000010036C

The last one is probably a better bet as it's pretty average but still decent. Its got a decent ehp with a pretty good ms+mr for its spell costs. Its damage is about average and its hp sustain is okay though more towards the low end imo.
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Au0K70FT07W0Fx0TQ0K40OH0QT1G0e2B141D1g000010036C

 

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This first one looks very nice. What would the playstyle ve? Just melee and rots when low?

 

I used RotS when my hp was getting low. It works pretty decently but the only downside is that it does consume mana up somewhat quick after 3 charges.

 

1. rots heal sustain isn't that good because it deletes powder special charging but good overall
2. pretty average
3. that's even worse than your second one even though it uses csabs...?
4. you cannot reasonably run 2/2/3/2 costs unless you have 18ms or over 20mr
5. same issue
6. same issue
7. same issue

tl;dr how do you play with 2/2/3/2 do you just click 2 times a second

https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0lS0Pf0DS0uD0Xr0Xr02d0BR0QT1L111f0t0e1g00000
WynnBuilder build:
> Sizzling Shawl
> Libra
> Demon Tide
> Magnet Repulsor
> Prism
> Prism
> Atlas
> Gigabyte
> Collapse []
spell, this should be sustainable. barely.

https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0690Pf0r507W0TQ0uN0K40BR0QT1L0e2B1Y1D1g00000
WynnBuilder build:
> Blue Mask
> Libra
> Vaward
> Capricorn
> Draoi Fair
> Ataraxy
> Prowess
> Gigabyte
> Collapse []
rainbow slap lfg

melee you can go with one of the ones above they're all pretty decent

 

Horizon gang
Rots one
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u30ZS0LM0VN0Xr0Jf0K40OH0QT1z0+0Z1X0t1g000010063O
WynnBuilder build:
> Scarlet Veil
> Tisaun's Valor
> Horizon
> Nether's Scar
> Prism
> Breezehands
> Prowess
> Diamond Fusion Necklace
> Collapse [f6e6f6]
And undying one
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u30ZS0LM0720Xr0Jf0K40OH0QT1k0t0Z1f0t1g000010063O
WynnBuilder build:
> Scarlet Veil
> Tisaun's Valor
> Horizon
> Burnout
> Prism
> Breezehands
> Prowess
> Diamond Fusion Necklace
> Collapse [f6e6f6]

 

Just my opinions coming up.

1. Yeah, that's the risk with using it. Can't really solve that with any tierstack build really since you aren't going to have a great hp sustain to begin with and you'd have to switch to whatever you use to heal yourself whether it be potions, RotS, or Undying.
2. Understandable.
3. Can't really prove or deny if it's good but it seems pretty decent to me

Been a bit since I did spell so I can't exactly say with certainty how good it is. Yeah, I should fix those real quick... the spell costs aren't great. As for the builds provided, I will say a common theme among me that I like it I like having some hpr and ls to reduce my reliance on items like RotS, Undying, and health potions. Just my preference and I know some people like different playstyles. Also, I prefer Diamond Fusion over Gigabyte most of the time mostly because you preserve more hp and get slightly more skill points.

This I'd say isn't overall that great. The spell costs and damage are pretty good but probably my biggest gripe would be the fact that there isn't any hp sustain except for a small amount of ls from Atlas. It's ehp is okay but not the greatest, you'd probably get better results using Morph. Also, you don't need 105 int. and because of Demon Tide, you can go to 79 int. and put the rest into defense. Doing that, which I think is what you probably meant to do, the ehp improves but isn't overall what I'd go for and you'd probably still get better results with Morph other than damage.

This one is better than the one above, it has a good defense and it has more mr+ms combined. It's damage is more on the lower end but that's mostly a tradeoff for more defense. Probably the bigger drawback is like the other one above, no real hp sustain to speak of.

 

maybe this:
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u30ZS0kT0VN0Jf0W70KL0OH0QT1k0+0Z180y1g00000
WynnBuilder build:
> Scarlet Veil
> Tisaun's Valor
> Second Wind
> Nether's Scar
> Breezehands
> Old Keeper's Ring
> Hallfred's Greed
> Diamond Fusion Necklace
> Collapse []

shitty ele defs and low ehp but greed which is cool
edit:powder collapse f6e6f6

 

Ooh, not bad! Yeah, the ehp is kinda low but it's a tolerable one I think. Elemental def. are kinda hard when you have Collapse and Scarlet Veil working together but it can be balanced out a bit with powders. A way you could improve upon it is by replacing Hallfred's Greed with a crafted bracelet of stolen pearls and nose rings. You maintain the same ehp but get a bigger boost in damage and get more stealing. Good job on it btw!

https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u30ZS0kT0VN0Jf0W7-1AS7JAS7J7J7J9c910OH0QT1k0+0Z180y1g000010063O
WynnBuilder build:
> Scarlet Veil
> Tisaun's Valor
> Second Wind
> Nether's Scar
> Breezehands
> Old Keeper's Ring
> CR-1AS7JAS7J7J7J9c91
> Diamond Fusion Necklace
> Collapse [f6e6f6]