Guide Mythic stat guide

I won't be updating the thread until 2.0 comes out.
So the stats here will not be the stat order people are using to buy the mythics currently, especially with 2.0 hype.
But I'll hopefully make another one when 2.0 drops and if I have the time.

No way there's gonna be a 10th guide at this point????

Hi everyone, I'm LegoBoyWelly, or you might know me better as 1+1=3 from The Marketplace. I and some others from The Marketplace have felt like we should probably update the old guide, so we've decided to create a stat guide for everyone to use and tell if a mythic could be worth a lot or not.
I'd like to remind everyone that the stats here are in general, so they may not be exactly the order you're looking for in your build, and the stats are in the order of how much they'll affect the item's prices.

Spoiler: Bows

Epoch: Main attack damage raw -> Life steal -> Walk speed


Stratiformis: Walk speed ->> Health -> Spell damage %


Spring: Mana regen -> Water damage


Divzer: Mana steal -> Life steal -> Spell damage raw


Grandmother: Health regen ->> Spell damage % ->> Health regen %


Ignis: Health = Health regen ->> Health regen % -> Arrow shield cost (-51%) -> Fire defence


Freedom: Mana regen -> Health -> Spell damage raw -> Walk speed


Az: Arrow storm cost (-34%) ->> Xp bonus = Fire damage = Water damage

Spoiler: Daggers

Oblivion: Mana regen ->> Spell damage raw -> Vanish cost


Inferno: Main attack damage raw -> Fire damage % -> Health -> Main attack damage % ->> Health regen % = Walk speed


Nirvana: Mana steal = Mana regen -> Health = Spell damage %


Cataclysm: Health -> Thunder damage


Grimtrap: Mana steal = Life steal -> Smoke bomb cost -> Poison


Weathered: Mana steal -> Walk speed -> Air damage


Nullification: Mana steal = Life steal -> Elemental defences


Archangel: Walk speed ->> Health -> Health regen raw -> Health regen %

Spoiler: Reliks

Immolation: Fire damage = Air damage -> Aura cost (-26%) -> Health -> Health regen %


Absolution: Health = 150%+ Water Damage -> Mana regen -> Fire damage -> Totem cost


Fantasia: 3rd cost (-34%) -> Mana regen = Mana steal -> Spell % -> Uproot cost


Toxoplasmosis: Poison ->> Mana steal -> Loot bonus -> Walk speed -> Life steal


Sunstar: Main attack damage raw -> Thunder damage -> Life steal -> Water damage


Hadal: Spell damage % -> Aura cost (+31%) -> Mana Regen -> Uproot cost (+33%)


Olympic: Jump height ->> Walk speed -> Air damage %


Aftershock: Health ->> Earth damage -> Uproot cost (-51%)

Spoiler: Spears

Convergence: Uppercut cost (-81%) -> Health regen % -> Elemental damages (doesn’t really matter)


Collapse: Main attack damage -> Mana Steal -> Exploding (100%+)


Thrundacrack: Thunder damage -> Water damage -> Health regen %


Idol: Charge cost -> Spell damage -> Mana regen


Alkatraz: Earth damage -> Main attack damage % -> Exploding


Guardian: Health -> Health regen


Hero: Walk speed ->> Health regen % -> Main attack damage %


Apocalypse: Life steal ->> Exploding (100%+) -> Health regen %

Spoiler: Wands

Quetzalcoatl: Spell damage raw -> Life steal -> Water damage -> Walk speed


Singularity: Main attack damage raw -> Walk Speed -> Main attack damage %


Fatal: Heal cost (+18%) -> Spell damage % -> Teleport spell cost (-76%) -> Walk speed


Warp: Mana Regen ->> Health regen raw ->> Walk speed -> Health regen % -> Air damage


Monster: Health -> Fire damage


Gaia: Main attack damage raw -> Spell damage raw -> Ice snake spell cost -> Poison -> Main attack damage %


Lament: Water damage -> Heal cost (-51%+) -> Mana steal


Pure: Spell damage % ->> Mana steal -> Xp bonus

Spoiler: Chestplates (Disco lol)

Discoverer: Loot bonus ->>>> Xp bonus

Spoiler: Boots

Revenant: 4th Spell cost (-51%) -> Earth damage = Air damage -> Health -> Main attack damage raw -> Walk speed -> Main attack damage % -> Reflection (100%+)


Warchief: Main attack damage % -> Earth damage -> Main attack damage raw -> Thunder damage -> Walk speed


Stardew: Mana regen -> Mana steal -> Spell damage raw -> Thunder damage -> Water damage


Dawnbreak: Mana steal = Life steal -> Main attack damage raw -> Thunder damage -> Fire damage


Moontower: Walk speed ->> Elemental defences


Slayer: 3rd spell cost (-51%) ->> Health regen -> Main attack damage -> Walk speed


Boreal: Health regen % -> Health regen -> Mana regen -> Walk speed


Galleon: Mana steal -> Poison -> Earth damage -> Water damage -> Loot bonus


Resurgence: Mana regen -> Health regen -> Spell damage % -> Walk speed


Crusade Sabatons: Health -> Walk speed = Health regen %

Spoiler: Changelog

23/02/2022
Changed Inferno
Inferno: Main attack damage raw -> Fire damage % -> Health -> Main attack damage % ->> Health regen % -> Walk speed
to
Inferno: Main attack damage raw -> Fire damage % -> Health -> Main attack damage % ->> Health regen % = Walk speed

Also fixed a few capital letters that were missing because i suck a garmmar

The values inside the brackets are the thresholds for the spells costs.

If you feel like something here is wrong then please tell me and we'll see if we can change it.

 

why is conv -81%? wynnbuilder says the threshold for 1 mana uppers is 61

 

which build are you using?
This is based off Convergence's 65 intel with no 79 intel threshold, or any other 3rd spell costs items, where'd you'd need -81% to hit 0 cost with 5 cost uppers

 

I uh
just slapped conv into wynnbuilder and slowly decreased the -3rd spell until it became 2 cost uppers

https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_2SG2SH2SI2SJ2SK2SL2SM2SN0ux0000111B001g00000
WynnBuilder build:
> No Helmet
> No Chestplate
> No Leggings
> No Boots
> No Ring 1
> No Ring 2
> No Bracelet
> No Necklace
> Convergence []

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the tiny brain method basically

 

ye -61% is the threshold for 1 cost uppers while -81% is the threshold for 0 cost, so we've decided to put 0 cost threshold as it isn't that hard to roll

 

Is there any practical reason for 0 cost uppers? Realistically we only need 1 cost for easy sustain in upper canceling

 

Not really, but it makes it less punishing if you mess up the uppercancel, or cast spells twice

 

Cool 10char

 

dont you mean fire damage?

 

ignis's 130% fire defence affects fire defence a lot, so it's be more important than 13% fire damage, where even a near minimum roll wouldn't make a really noticeable difference in term of damage

 

I'm glad this finally got an update so I can find the best buy for the mythic I want to try.

 

Looks good, couple things though.

Firstly please capitalise the stats on Toxo and Fanta or I’m going to die inside. Also this is really small but somethings like on Fanta are named 4th spell while on Aftershock it’s called uproot. Just a consistency problem I guess. (I’d probably call them by the spell names rather than the spell number, might make it easier for less knowledgeable players).

Also from experience with using/building with Convergence, I’ve found that way more builds use thunder than strength, so I’d say thunder damage is a lot more important. I’d probably go Upper cost > Thunder > Hp regen > Earth unless I could find a good EWF build that does more damage than a TWF build.

One final thing I just thought about was maybe making a way of showing how much more important a stat is. For example for Absolution you have Health -> Mana Regen (which I agree with) but they aren’t too different in importance. On the other hand, something like Pure has a huge difference. You have Spell damage -> Mana steal (which I also obviously agree with), but there is a much much bigger gap between the importance of these. Maybe you could do something like, adding more arrows if it more important. E.g Pure: Spell damage >>> Mana Steal. Absolution: Health > Mana Regen. Warp: Mana Regen >>> Health Regen raw >> Walk speed > Health Regen %.

 

bump, also forgot to say but added most of Skidoo's suggestions

 

main raw dmg on a warchief isn't that important. main% and earth% are better

 

Changed Warchief:
Main attack damage raw -> Main attack damage % -> Thunder damage = Earth damage -> Walk speed
to
Main attack damage % -> Earth damage -> Main attack damage raw -> Thunder damage -> Walk speed

 

bumpity bump

 

bump, changed quetz because i messed up when i created the thread
Quetzalcoatl: Spell damage raw -> Water damage -> Life steal -> Walk speed
to
Quetzalcoatl: Spell damage raw -> Life steal -> Water damage -> Walk speed

 

Some things i dislike about two of the daggers, i do think that for inferno Melee % is more important than Health (People prioritize Melee% much more than health due to health being so massively abundant compared to Melee%) and walk speed is moreso = hpr%. And for nirvana almost EVERYONE agree’s that spell matters miles more than HP. Aside from that very cool thread, everything else i see from what i know is p solid.

 

The thing with Hp is that it's a pretty big range, so a difference of 10% wynntils will end up being 200 hp difference, whereas 10% melee% will only end up being 2%-3%, so hp will end up doing a lot more. As for ws = hpr%, you're right so I changed it

It's the same thing as Inferno's hp and main%, and Nirv is one of those that have a lot of different stat orders, that are mostly based on which builds you use, just like Rev. So imo Hp = Spell% is the stat order that best fits here

 

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