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Archer/Hunter Some questions about nhawk freedom

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by SoulyHere, Jan 1, 2022.

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  1. SoulyHere

    SoulyHere She/Her

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    My build
    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Vb0Pf0r507W0K20TQ0K40OH0QV0e0e210u1h1g000010336O
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Nighthawk
    > Libra
    > Vaward
    > Capricorn
    > Moon Pool Circlet
    > Draoi Fair
    > Prowess
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > Freedom [f6t6t6f6] (I used w6t6t6w6 instead of this but nvm)
    Questions
    1: is it possible to get more mana sustain?
    2: is it possible to make it sslow?
    3. how should I spell cycle? I currently cycle arrow storm-arrow storm-bomb but the mana drains so quickly, is it because I cycle wrong or I cycle too fast?
    4. can I powder armor to w6w6 each piece for concentration to get higher damage or there's other powder option or it just don't work?
    Thanks. @J_Lo777
     
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    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    i think this makes sense for nhawk. even if it's wrong, your build is probably still more responsible for your mana draining. 9mr is worse than what a 6cps player would need, and even that is assuming a max roll on your freedom.
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    it's not worth it regardless, but there's no harm in doing so outside of nhawk builds. imo in this case the -tdef penalty outweighs the benefit freedom draws from conc
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    barring resurgence, i think it'll cost your ehp no matter what. assuming you're okay with this, there's a range of options you could try. dropping to 1/1 costs is an example, but i don't have time to find the best candidates.

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Vb0F+0r507W09q09q0K40OH0QV0e0e210h1h1g000010336O
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Nighthawk
    > Far Cosmos
    > Vaward
    > Capricorn
    > Black Catalyst
    > Black Catalyst
    > Prowess
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > Freedom [f6t6t6f6]
     
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  3. Justice

    Justice Obliterator of Grooks VIP+

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    Yes though it would come at the cost of some damage and defense. I might recommend Soulflare since it has 2 mr and 2 ms and some skill points to recover from the loss of Libra. If you use Soulflare though, you would have to use most likely a different pair of boots regain an int. of 129 since Capricorn wouldn't be able to do that. The 2 that could be reliably used I would say are Sapphire and Curador boots. Both have there benefits and downside but in general, Sapphire is more damage based while Curador Boots is more tank based. I did try to use Pro Tempore with the current build setup but it just turned out to not really change the mana sustain really. If you use Sapphire though, it will require that you replace Moon Pool with a DHydro Ring since with Moon Pool you would need a skill tome while with DHydro you wouldn't. Another odd ball option you could try would to use Aquarius but that might come with its own challenges.

    Soulflare+Curador Boots: https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Vb0K70r50Aw0K20TQ0K40OH0QV0e0e2118161g000010336O
    Soulflare+Sapphire: https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Vb0K70r50k50OK0TQ0K40OH0QV0j0e210z161g000010336O

    This one is a little difficult to incorporate in with any of the current builds without loosing too many skill points but I have one. It does require the use of 2 tomes to use but it should fulfill the mana and reduction in attack speed that you desire. I'm not certain how effective it would really be but what I have below is about the best attempt I could make with the requirements you asked for.

    Soulflare+Curador Boots+Reduced Attack Speed: https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Vb0K70r50Aw0uA0TQ0K40OM0QV0e0e210y161g000010336O
     
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  4. SoulyHere

    SoulyHere She/Her

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    ok that means I have to cycle slower, its fine
    Thanks for telling me not to waste my water powders
    Hmm... although your suggested build bring down bomb to 1 cost but no I'm not gonna sacrifice more mr for that
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    Your suggested builds are good, but yeah I guess I'll just stick to my current build and learn to spam slower. Thanks for the builds!
     
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  5. hppeng

    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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    should consider the cost reduction as equivalent to about 5-6 mana regen, its quite worth it lol

    just think about mana consumption in basic bomb-storm cycle: casting at 6cps (usual design casting speed, tune this for your own speed) means you cast one bomb spell/second, which consumes 5 mana/5s.
     
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    DeltaWave I miss cancelstack VIP

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    BlueTheSniper Founder of Blue Builds CHAMPION

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    There's whole ass essays in here
    Here's my comment: 1st 3rd cycle
     
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    SoulyHere She/Her

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    then whats the point using nhawk then?
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    but i dont have access to tomes on my archer rn
     
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    an easy solution would be not using nhawk, but since you dont want that, here are some more ideas i had
    equalizer (less ehp, more mr)
    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Vb0Pf0FT07W0K20TQ0K40OH0QV0e0e210p1h1g000010336O
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Nighthawk
    > Libra
    > Equalizer
    > Capricorn
    > Moon Pool Circlet
    > Draoi Fair
    > Prowess
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > Freedom [f6t6t6f6]
    demon tide (reaches 10 mr, keeps ehp, minor -hpr fixable with a tome)
    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Vb0Pf0DS07W0050K20K40OH0QV0e111G161h1g000010336O
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Nighthawk
    > Libra
    > Demon Tide
    > Capricorn
    > Summa
    > Moon Pool Circlet
    > Prowess
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > Freedom [f6t6t6f6]
    weird lower dmg 11 mixed mana with sslow
    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Vb0Pf0DS0K50qo0uN0K40OH0QV0q11141c161g000010336O
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Nighthawk
    > Libra
    > Demon Tide
    > Silt of the Seafloor
    > Unspeakable
    > Ataraxy
    > Prowess
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > Freedom [f6t6t6f6]
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    also, use your current build to do notg and get some sp tomes
    you can easy get 300 total lvl by getting gathering profs to around 30-40 and some crafting ones to 10-20
     
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    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    the regular arrow storm takes like 1.5s to cast, which makes it inefficient even when alternating. i didn't bring it up previously because i'm not sure if this is a good enough reason to outweigh losing the helmet slot.
     
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