Assassin/Ninja Help comparing two builds/requesting a thrunda ripsaw build

https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#5_0K...010n0k013530GQ0K40uI0QQ052C1f14111g000010036C
WynnBuilder build:
> Sparkweaver
> Medeis
> Gemini
> Dawnbreak
> Flipped Lapis Ring
> Finesse
> Prowess
> Eyes on All
> Cataclysm [t6t6t6]

https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#5_0K...010n0k013530GQ0K40uI0pm051x1f11111g000010006C
WynnBuilder build:
> Sparkweaver
> Medeis
> Gemini
> Dawnbreak
> Flipped Lapis Ring
> Finesse
> Prowess
> Eyes on All
> Thrunda Ripsaw [t6t6]


found the first build from a slightly old thread and replaced it with a thrunda(since i feel like its damage and other stats are comparable to a cataclysm) and as clearly seen, its dmg is wayyy less than that of cataclysm.
ive compared most of the stats and they are almost the same in the "overall build stats". I want to know where exactly this damage difference comes from and if possible a build with high dps(8-10k) spins with good ehp(45k+) using thrunda as seen in the cataclysm build.
Thanks in advance!

 

First, that build is not good anymore becouse flapis is dead.
Second, the dmg difference comes from the base dps of the weapon, since cata has one of the highest of it, there is no surprise it deals way more dmg.
Third, if you want to replace cata, use Black.
Lastly, not many daggers can achieve 8-10k spins without ETW, so you can choose between lots of dmg and glassy or less dmg but tanky.

 

just saying, if you don't know already, FLapis is no longer any good after it got nerfed a while ago

 

oh, how was it nerfed?

i checked the stats, 110-425 for thrunda and 93-482 for cataclysm, it doesnt seem that big(only 20 dmg avg difference)

i assumed it was possible cuz cata achieves it even with -ve health

 

base damages of cata vs thrunda ripsaw

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Negative IDs no longer decay so a 0 durability "flappis" accessory will retain its initial large amount of -%spell damage

 

where did u get that graph may i ask, and would i be able to play around with it to see the dps of other weapons?

 

cats has super fast attack speed while thrunda only has fast attack speed, so cata has a higher spell multiplier

 

i did not know that, thanks for clearing that up

 

Just wondering, where do you get this list from it'll be useful for me to check something

 

Deadass I've just spent 10 minutes trying to find where but I couldn't. It's UWynn or WynnBuilder