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Media I Completed All Main Quests And Slaying Posts On 14 Classes + Ranking - The Essay

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  1. DogeTennant

    DogeTennant Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Hey,
    so it's finally here! I've finally completed the achievement I set myself like a year ago.

    Main Quests
    I started working on this around that time when I first decided to do this (so 1 year ago). Keep in mind, that I only really had 11 classes to work with, as I completed (almost) all quests on the 3 other classes outside of this challenge. However, after not even finishing one class (got to Ahmsord). I got so exhausted, that I just couldn't continue. The quests were too slow and I just didn't find it enjoyable enough even to mindlessly grind it. So I temporarily gave up and I stopped playing completely for quite some time, I only sporadically logged on to chat in WC1 Detlas. But then the 1.20.2 update came and when I read the changelog I was so happy. Unskippable dialogue was getting removed (with exceptions). Finally, the change was I was waiting for the most, was here and I didn't even expect it. Once the update dropped on live servers, I immediately joined and got right back into my challenge and this time I didn't quit because it was drastically faster than before. As far as I'm aware I'm one of only four people to achieve this in 1.20+ (Be sure to correct me if I'm wrong)

    And that's why I'm an advocate for the New Dialogue System that most people don't like or straight-up hate. Despite the bugs, despite the annoyances, this change made me go back to Wynn, start playing again and what exhausted me in one run before, didn't exhaust me 11 times over now. That's why I will always say that the new system is better and only needs tweaking, not reverting. Note that I've completed over 1400 quests on the new dialogue system.

    Slaying Posts
    They are truly mini-quests since they only took me like 3 days (could've been faster if I nolifed it more), I bought some of the ings, and the rest I farmed on my Shaman, then distributed them between my classes and just hopped from post to post finishing the quests instantly.

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    I'd like to specifically thank @EPIC67890 for helping me through this by lending me his Stratiformis, making my Archer runs much faster, and also for helping me with the "???" quest. And also SirJooJ (sorry, I don't know your Forum Username) also for helping with the "???" quest and making our runs much more efficient.



    Now I said "Ranking" in the title. I will rank some of the quests in different categories, however, I won't rank all quests from worst to best in one category, that would be nearly impossible. (I know there's a video on this, but I still stand by my point) By this, I don't want to imply that I know better than others, or that my opinion on quests is more valuable, everything below will be completely subjective (except maybe some stuff), I just feel like with my experience I could have some interesting insight.

    First, I will rank the top 5 best quests in two categories - best quests gameplay-wise and story-wise (I'm only talking about the story that we learn directly in the quest, no secret discoveries, white NPCs, etc...)

    Top 5 Best Quests (Story-Wise)
    1. Realm of Light V - The Realm of Light
    2. The Hero of Gavel
    3. An Iron Heart Part II
    4. Point of No Return
    5. A Journey Beyond
    Honorable mentions: A Grave Mistake, Realm of Light III - A Headless Hunt, A Hunter's Calling, A Journey Further, Beyond the Grave, Shattered Minds, Fantastic Voyage

    Reasoning:

    Realm of Light V - The Realm of Light
    ; This quest is simply amazing, I didn't like Lari in the first 4 parts, so her change of heart in this quest only made a bigger impact on me. I think some people didn't like that Bak'al randomly appeared in this quest out of nowhere, but for me, it was the only moment in Wynn that made me say "What the fuck?" out loud. I never thought I would have such a strong reaction to something regarding Wynncraft Quests. And don't let me get started on the Epilogue when you enter the Nexus of Light. Man, I got CHILLS - on TWO playthroughs!

    The Hero of Gavel; The entire story about Siegfried is so mysterious and chilling that it just amazed me. When this quest first came out, even before I did it, or saw it. I expected Siegfried to not be the hero everyone thinks and that he's just a fraud. And I was kind of disappointed when I found out that I was right. (I was spoiled before I did the quest for the first time) However the depth they added and the horrible truth that this whole fraud may be hiding is what made this story one of my favorites.

    An Iron Heart Part II; Some people might disagree with me on this one, especially since I put it in the top 3 because the main part that I like about this quest and Part I as well is not exactly original and is mainly a reference to a TV Show called "Doctor Who", and that's
    (spoiler alert) taking real people and forcibly removing their emotions and differences and putting them into cold metal coffins to serve some higher purpose. However, even though this is just a reference, I had to think about every single Iron Golem that I have passed by and realized they were all once Villagers and that's kind of scary.

    Point of No Return; I know this quest is one of the most hated for its mechanics and bugs, but looking at it from a completely unbiased perspectiveš in those regards, the story is really good. The exploration of your soul, the chase after it, and the struggle. I hope we explore more of this in Dern.


    A Journey Beyond; Story-wise I love everything about this quest. A group of adventurers venturing into the unknown, underprepared and quickly met with the harsh environment of the Silent Expanse. Some of the Critters in this quest were nerve-wracking and frightening, the deaths were impactful, which cannot be said about most quests. Simply very good writing.

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    Alright, that's it for Best Quests in the Story category, now for the Gameplay

    Top 5 Best Quests (Gameplay-Wise)
    1. Forbidden Prison
    2. Misadventure on the Sea
    3. ???
    4. Lazarus Pit
    5. Point of No Return
    Honorable Mentions: Deja Vu, The Order of the Grook, Lexdale Witch Trials, The Bigger Picture, General's Orders, The Feathers Fly Part I & II, A Journey Beyond


    Reasoning:

    Forbidden Prison; I've heard some people call this quest "Misadventure on the Sea Part II" and it's true they are very similar in gameplay and mechanics, but I think that Forbidden Prison took what Misadventure had and improved on it, made it better. Your choices matter more, you can find more stuff, do more stuff. Your actions actually matter outside of the quest and I'm not sure that any other quest does that - that's simply amazing and can singlehandedly put this quest in the number 1 spot for me.

    Misadventure on the Sea; As I already said, Forbidden Prison is very similar to this, I mean the first task is almost the same in both quests but that doesn't make it any worse
    (if anything, it would make Forbidden Prison worse since it's newer). I love all the side stuff you can do in this quest and the choices you can make that affect certain stages of your progress.

    ???; People might eat me alive for this as I know this quest is either the most loved or most hated by people, nothing in-between. And to be honest I'm leaning on the "hate" side. I never liked this quest. I never approved of it needing more than 1 person to complete. However, I have to rate this from an objective side and I just have to admit that this quest has some really creative puzzles and mechanics that you don't see anywhere else in the game and that's why I'm including this quest here.

    Lazarus Pit; What I like about this quest that you do something else in each part of this quest and it's never boring. My favorite part is at the Church where you do certain tasks that aren't actually quest stages and I like all of them. The puzzle at the end also isn't too hard, which my smol brain prefers.

    Point of No Return; I'm indeed putting this quest in the top 5 categories in both Story and Gameplay regards. Once again, people complain about this quest because of the bugs, but if they were to be suddenly fixed. This quest would shine. The soul switching is amazing and creative in what way you have to do it, each part of the quest is unique and if this quest had just a tiny bit fewer bugs, it would certainly become one of the favorites amongst others as well (at least I think lol).

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    That's it for the Top 5 Best Gameplay Quests, now I'm gonna quickly mention some quests and that in my opinion the most underrated and overrated, going to make this only top 3.

    Top 3 Overrated Quests
    1. The Feathers Fly Questline
    2. One Thousand Meters Under
    3. Misadventure on the Sea

    Reasoning:

    The Feathers Fly Questline; While the quests do bring in some interesting mechanics (that's why I included the questline as an honorable mention in the gameplay-wise best quests), these interesting mechanics are simply way too repetitive to be enjoyable and the story is mediocre at best and not very original.

    One Thousand Meters Under; Very similar to Flight in Distress, building the bridge stage doesn't make sense, fetching.

    Misadventure on the Sea; While I included this quest as one of the best quests, I still think it's overrated because many people call it the best quest in the game and I don't agree at all. If I truly had to rank quests disregarding some categories, MotS definitely wouldn't make top 5 and most likely barely top 10.

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    Top 3 Underrated Quests
    1. Point of No Return
    2. Royal Trials
    3. General's Orders

    Reasoning:

    Point of No Return; I think this one is pretty obvious, it gets all the hate from the people that can't do parkour and people who encounter bugs and it overshadows the great story and gameplay

    Royal Trials; While the first part is only to slay mobs, the second part is really good and unique and the stealth section is also quite enjoyable, I haven't heard many people say this quest is bad I just don't see anyone talking about it and that's why I think it's underrated.

    General's Orders; Once again, I don't hear many people complaining about this quest, I just don't think it's talked about enough considering how good and unique I think this quest is.

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    Now for some most satisfying and annoying moments, you encounter in quests.

    Top 3 Most Satisfying Things in Quests
    1. Completing a puzzle for the first time without any outside help
    2. Beating the boss at level in one try
    3. Farming all items required for a quest beforehand and complete stages and lighting speed
    Honorable mentions: Doing one quest so many times that you can just speedrun it

    Top 3 Most Annoying Things in Quests
    1. Quest Helmets
    2. Missing a trigger
    3. Forgetting to pick up an item and realizing only after talking to the required NPC
    Honorable mentions: Buggy dialogue system, remaining unskippable dialogue


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    I also just have to do some negative rankings, so first, let's do the worst quests in-game. I'm not doing two categories here as many quests don't even really have a story, so it's redundant.

    Top 5 Worst Quests
    1. Tribal Aggression
    2. The Olmic Rune
    3. The Thanos Vaults
    4. Aldorei's Secret Part II
    5. The Canyon Guides
    Unhonorable mentions: The Ultimate Weapon, The Tower of Ascension, WynnExcavation Questline, Lost Soles, Bob's Lost Soul, Bob's Reincarnation, Recipe for Disaster, Temple of the Legends

    Reasoning:

    Tribal Aggression; Seriously, you just go back and forth between two tribes and nothing else.

    The Olmic Rune; The Silent Expanse is already an area with low quantity of quests, why is one of them a fetch quest? And on top of that, you need to fight against mobs for a period of time and you can't make it faster in any way.

    The Thanos Vaults; I get it, it's supposed to be a reference to Harry Potter, but I think I would be able to fall asleep during this quest.

    Aldorei's Secret Part II
    ; At the state this quest is in right now, it shouldn't be even in the game and it's baffling to me that it is. For those who do not understand - Part I of this quest was reworked, while Part II was not and so it doesn't make any sense.

    The Canyon Guides; I personally don't think this quest is as bad as people say. I mean hey I still put it in the top 5, but most people have it as number 1. The NPC type they chose for this quest is just annoying and frustrating, not even talking about the bugs.

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    Alright, now let's rate the buggiest quests. Before anyone asks, I will be mass-reporting all the bugs I've encountered in my playthroughs, I'm not planning to just complain here and do nothing to help solve these bugs.

    Top 6 Buggiest Quests
    1. Dwarves and Doguns Part III
    2. Point of No Return
    3. Kingdom of Sand
    4. Dwarves and Doguns Part I
    5. Reclaiming the House
    6. Dwarves and Doguns Part II
    Unhonorable mentions: Dwarves and Doguns Part IV, Hero of Gavel, Frost Bite, The Canyon Guides, Cowfusion, A Hunter's Calling, The Feathers Fly Part I & II

    Reasoning:

    Dwarves and Doguns Part III
    ; Korzim becomes invisible 100% of the time in this quest, delayed dialogue at the end of True Ice cave, can be quite tricky to even end the quest with the Maex Soldier dialogue not triggering or triggering in a weird way.

    Point of No Return; At like every stage you can die of fall damage, your soul duplicating in the labyrinth section, falling off of platforms, getting stuck at the bottom of the dropper, randomly dying when being teleported into a new room. The stage where you have to evade falling blocks not triggering at all, leaving all the doors open.

    Kingdom of Sand; The entire quest can reset itself to Stage 1 if you accidentally talk to Lanu between stages 6 and 7, getting stuck in a black box after escaping via caravan from the mansion. Triggers that make you teleport to an instance where you meet Tarek and Geo are weird as is their dialogue trigger. Caravan not spawning after escaping the mansion. Not being able to escape through the fireplace

    Dwarves and Doguns Part I; Sometimes the NPCs at the theatre just disappear and everything goes to a halt, going to house 81 is completely pointless (I don't think this is a bug, but just a mistake, there should be a trigger in House 81). Fixing the machine is weird, where you can click a block where you want the wool to be placed but it's placed somewhere else instead, sometimes instead of 3 guards, just 1 guard spawns. At the end of the quest if you go away from the Axelus and Korzim they just despawn and don't give you the bone

    Reclaiming the House; At the end of the second stage, after killing all the mobs, the next stage doesn't trigger, and Elphaba just kind of stands there doing nothing and you are stuck. At the end of the cutscene where you observe the overtaken base, you get taken out of spectator mode and you can walk around freely before getting teleported back, the orc npcs still have their charge attack which makes them sometimes get out of view and you can't see the "!!!" marks above them to correctly cut the ropes. Sometimes the orc npcs just disappear altogether. Overtakers spawning inside of walls

    Dwarves and Doguns Part II; Game sometimes doesn't notice you killing the commanders, making you kill them multiple times, sometimes you can't break all of the blocks with the pickaxe no matter how hard you try. In some instances, in the armory, you can't either pick up stones/tnts or you can't put them inside of cannons. At the stage where you defend Axelus, he just gets teleported away from the center somewhere to the side.

    Personally, I think that the fact there are all of D&D quests mentioned in some form in my list, means that there is something really wrong with them and should be looked into and fixed/reworked in the future, because seriously all of these quests are really buggy and for some reason, I think people overlook how buggy this questline is.

    Also if there are any CT members (or even Salted?) reading this, please know that I'm not hating on you or bashing you, I know how hard your jobs are and how difficult it probably is to polish these quests I just wanted to point these out and I thought that ranking quest in this category would be quite funny and interesting. I greatly appreciate the work that you all do, I doubt anybody else could do it better. Love yall.

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    Well and let's go for one last category - the most forgettable/average quests. You know the ones, that you did. They were not terrible but also not great, not really standing out and you most likely forgot about them already? Well here are my picks.

    Top 5 Forgettable Quests
    1. Crop Failure
    2. Beneath the Depths
    3. Corrupted Betrayal
    4. Death Whistle
    5. Lost in the Jungle
    Unhonorable mentions: The Canary Calls, Green Gloop, From the Mountains

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    Well that is it, I've spent several hours writing this so if you read it all, I hope you enjoyed my 3000-word essay and I would love to read your opinions on my rankings maybe make your own of smaller scale and I'm also interested if any of you will ever try to attempt the same challenge as me.

    Also before anybody asks... No, I'm not doing profs now.
     
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  2. the drink

    the drink the CHAMPION

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    look man i rushed the shit out of that section i had absolutely no ideas then i watched some video of some prisoner talking about his life in prison and how he had to clean his toilets constantly for 11 years or some shit and immediately just decided to go with cleaning
     
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    EPIC67890 Half-blood Prof Tryhard and Loot Runner

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    Yo congratulations on finally finishing this goal! I know you’ve been working endlessly to get every quest completed and you did them all pretty fast imo. Getting a character done every few days was nothing to look over. That was some serious dedication and it really did pay off! And hopefully the strati did help with some speed haha.
     
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    Reze

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    this used to be me but i dont have the energy for this anymore ... (or time tbh)
     
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    parrottv_1 Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    damn gj
    and i thought 106 on all classes all quests was impressive :(
     
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    A Human Definitely not an alien. VIP+

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    I'm curious as to whether you forgot about The Lost Tower
     
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    DogeTennant Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    I think that's still quite impressive

    Oh ye, I forgot about that quest so hard, that I forgot to include it, but to be honest a lot of the early quests aren't that memorable, but that's not really a bad thing because if every quest since the beginning would be this 20 stage epic adventure with puzzles and all kinds of advanced mechanics, it could drive new players off
     
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    Coolyoshi7 Just vibing with the mushrooms and making Waifus

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    Really liked your take on the quest experience its very interesting seeing someone else's views compared to my own and it was presented very beautifully well done. Also the feathers that fly quest is over rated because well Ava.
     
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