The Shift Feature

Is there a way to toggle the "SHIFT" feature that pops up everytime you're doing a dialogue in a quest? I find it annoying

 

no

 

thats sad
wynncraft im dissapointed

 

Yeah, what's up with that it's so much worse than the previous way of doing it. You know the one we've been using for 8 years, that one

Not the new one which is worse, at least make it a toggle

 

apparently it’s a technical issue stopping them from having it be a toggle. They are not unaware of many people’s distaste for the dialogue system.

 

Like I've almost quit Wynncraft, I play like once a month, because of technical issues and all of that. I'm doing quests now to progress and I'm literally getting aids. The new system is so confusing and it doesn't even work properly lol.

 

Im so sorry Salted, but this aint it

 

I've seen this come up a lot. The only way "around" this that I've found is that instead of pressing "shift" you can hold the button down and it will skip through the dialog

 

Yes, that's how the skipping is meant to work.

 

Why hold shift when you can spam shift for a more dramatic experience for other bystanders who happen to walk by?

 

I understand that people want to skip dialogue, but sometimes clues are hidden in the dialogue itself. However, with the new system, it's impossible to see the dialogue after pressing shift.

It's also annoying when you're trying to read for fun and accidentally skip one line of dialogue and it's impossible to go back and see the text.

so yeah idk, I feel like they could've done this better by still showing previous dialogue.

 

you can still see previous dialogue in the normal quest book by checking the dialogue history in the top left corner
admittedly, this could definitely be improved as it only shows 20 or so lines max (less than some single sets of dialogue), but imo it's quite a nice system, especially as it won't get cluttered by normal chat in between the dialogues

dont really want to argue about whether it'd be better to just have left the dialogues in chat and added dialogue history, but it's still there and very useful for stuff like that

 

I'm just gonna post my stuff here again for anyone who didn't read it, however for those who already read this in different topics, I added something to point number 3. and also a few more things at the end, be sure to read it if you're interested. I also added new points to the bug section "e.", "f.", "g." and "h."

Salted should read this, I believe I do have something to say with my experience with the new system and I believe I bring constructive criticism and feedback.

I disagree with going back to the old system (they won't do that anyway, maybe only if like 99% of the entire community loudly complained)

I just think this one needs improvement

1. Do not deactivate spells while in dialogue (causes bugs like in Hero of Gavel you can't save Siegfried while he's stuck in the web because you're in dialogue)
2. Remove Slowness
3. Keep dialogue in chat - I think literally no one cared about it cluttering chat, at least I've seen way more people now complain about it not being in chat as opposed to people complaining about it cluttering the chat before
4. Design the skip dialogue function differently, like make it a right-click or just something entirely different (I personally don't mind it that much to just hold shift, but I admit that it has happened to me, especially in cinematics that I forgot to press shift and I was just stuck at some point in a cinematic when I don't pay attention (don't blame me, I've already seen all the cutscenes and cinematics multiple times))
5. Just fix bugs such as
a. Dialogue not visible in chat even when in dialogue and the only way you know the dialogue ended is when your slowness disappears (the only moment when the slowness effect is actually useful)
b. NPCs either disappearing or doubling in the middle of dialogue
c. When holding shift, sometimes instead of finishing the dialogue, it starts all over again. This happened to me especially in the quest Out of my Mind with the starting dialogue that I had to go through 3 times in a row because I was just holding shift.
?d?. Sometimes new stage info after dialogue is complete, doesn't update - sometimes it updates itself when you click on the NPC again, but that only works if that NPC has some dialogue set when waiting for you to complete the stage, if it doesn't have any dialogue, it doesn't work (though this might be a Wynntils issue I'm not sure, that's why I put the "d" in question marks) - this also seriously messes up some quests when the quest doesn't update properly
e. Dialogue ending improperly making all of chat invisible until relog (even /class doesn't fix this), you can't see your messages either
f. Sometimes when holding the shift button, after every dialogue message, chat gets spammed with all the /toggle options for some reason, clutters chat way more than anything.
g. Crashes upon finishing certain parts of dialogue
h. Quest rewards not showing up after finishing a quest (can be really confusing especially for newer players as the quest doesn't show itself being completed in the quest book for some time either)

This system CAN be really good without the need of it being toggleable or being reverted back to the original, it just isn't polished enough, and trust me, I've probably done more quests with the new dialogue system than anyone else including the Content Team (I'm pretty confident about this) and the amount of bugs is just abysmal and should be unacceptable as it is so important to this game.

That being said, I've also hoped for unskippable dialogue to be removed for the longest time and this dialogue system change made me singlehandedly come back to Wynn and start playing again. Good job Salted and the CT, take it one step at a time and bring this system to what it's supposed to be.

For reference, I've completed somewhere between 1050-1085 quests on the new dialogue system

 

You can turn off sticky keys though

 

Yeah, I just don't wanna do quests with dialogue like this. It's annoying as hell and really distracts from the actual gameplay.

 

Fully agree, I did a few quests and guess I got used to it a little bit, but at the same time it was way better before. Not as complicated and way easier to know what you're supposed to do instead of having to go into the quest book several times and press right click or left click in order to see what you actually have to do.

 

Another bug is if someone throws an item bomb and you're in dialogue, you can't claim the items after it shows up (happened to me today).

 

This one is especially infuriating.

The dialogue telling you to save him prevents you from saving him. How absurd is that?

Same for daily mission rewards.

 

My least favorite parts are when you accidentally click on a gathering post and get slowed, and how you still have to wait for some texts before you can go to the next line, even though I finished reading it like 10 seconds before.