SPOILER Bak'al's Checkmate

the use of the emperor was an example, and only that, (The Emperor not Hashr)
he had great power, it was Hashr that caused the curse to befall the desert, (By the Emperor's last breath)

my point is that there are many mages that can use powers that others cannot fathom,
take Bob for instance, he was a Human, or at least half-human, (Depending on which theory you believe)
he was able to use powers that mages couldn't explain, and nearly beat Bak-al,

or you could take "Old Man Martyn" we have little to no history on him but he was able to open up a continuous rift for time travel (something that few mages could ever do)

the point is that there are many types of magic that we have no clue about, and if one cannot keep a broad scope then they cannot access that which others see,

the beast that Bak-al calls master, could have even been a creation of Qira's, We do not know enough to fathom anything more than a guess.

 

Wait, there are more theories than "he was half Olm" and "we do not know"?

wtf is that theory... He is clearly Dern Beast's servant.

Also dialogue from Qira Hive quest
Qira: It is as I have always told you. The darkness is coming...but if you Wynn folk are all as strong as you have proven yourself to be, we may just be able to beat it back. Honour to you, warrior of Wynn.

Which quite strongly implies Qira is not evil

 

"I have always told you." Did she even told us before this....

 

Didn't sound like just an example to me.

Like what powers?

You list Bob as an example of a mage that can use powers others cannot fathom, yet then you say he was able to use powers that mages couldn't explain...
I would not say Bob was a mage. He was well versed in spellcasting, a mage, but not a Mage.
And, still, so what if he was powerful? Does it have anything to do with Light or Dark, or the War of the Realms?

• Bob: I will never let this city fall again.
• Bak'al: Another soldier..? It matters not. End him!
• Bob: Rising Uppercut
• Bak'al: A foolhardy display of power means nothing to me. Again, peons!
• Bob: Diving Earthshatter
• Bak'al: Your power.. it's... I wasn't prepared for this.. Retreat, peons!
• Bob: Oh no, YOU'RE not getting away!
• Bob: Frost Serpent
• Bob: Arrow Barrage
• Bob: Fire Bomb
• Bob: I spent my entire life preparing for this. I will NEVER let this province fall.
• Bak'al: The Twains said the same thing to me, once. And just like them, you will fall helplessly at my feet.
• Bob: I've learned from the Twains' mistakes! I refuse to fall as easily as they did!

Of the spells Bob casts, nothing has to do with Light or Dark. He only shows prowess in the classical arts (albeit extraordinarily so), not anything of Influence.

You compare him to Mages, implying he himself was a Mage.
Well, what does time travel have to do with Influence? Time Valley was built by the Olm, who we know about, and the Olm were not gods of Realms or whatnot.

Nothing in Wynncraft points to such conclusions, so I don't believe them. You do not simply create new lore.

No, it is not... what does Qira have to do with anything?! The only thing that points to Qira being at all related to Dern is the fact that she has a dark color scheme, which is like saying strawberries are from Mars because they are both red. Also, Qira is versed in not Dark or Light, but instead the classical arts and the elements.
I would argue that we do know enough to make a decent guess as to what Dern Beast is. There are cutscenes where parts of Dern Beast is shown, namely their claws and such. The Eye is their eye. In RoL IV, the Guardian of the Forest explains the Plane of Influence. He says that Light and Dark are represented as Beasts, being Orphion and Dern Beast. They are one with their realms. In Ne du Valeos du Ellach, Orphion and Dern Beast are shown in a void. Nothing else. No Qira.

You have to ask yourself: WHY would Qira do this? WHY would anyone do anything? The Queen of Fruma and the Emperor of the desert have nothing to do with the War of the Realms, so why would they be some cause of it?

 

Take the Twains for instance, their full magic abilities are still unknown, and of magic the mages in the current time have little to no clue of.

according to the secret discovery in the ruins, the olm created Time-Valley, possibly in an effort to reverse what had happened to them through time travel.

 

No? The Twains did not have some great and amazing powers?

We know about the magic of all major Twains except Marius, which doesn't mean he has some magic unknown to Wynn, only that we do not know what powers he has.

And how does that relate? That only means they tried to reverse what happened to them, not to reverse Influence specifically

 

See TrapinchO's reply.

 

the "you" in this quote was directed to Yansur, not the player. The sentence after "You Wynn folk" is directed to the player