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Warrior/Knight Spell Spam Warrior Build Help?

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by reithal_yeet, Mar 16, 2021.

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  1. reithal_yeet

    reithal_yeet I make builds, both good and bad

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    I just want to see a good spell spam warrior build. I have been trying to make one my self but i just cant Get it right
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    I would preffer life and mana steal and 10k healt and 20k uppercuts if possible
     
  2. Diddi

    Diddi Well-Known Adventurer

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    Any limitations (items you can't use)? 20k uppercuts is quite a high amount without it being very glassy or with a mythic. Do you want boosted or unboosted 20k?
     
  3. reithal_yeet

    reithal_yeet I make builds, both good and bad

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    I have no limitations and if 20k uppers is to much then thats ok.
    As long as the build has decent survivability while allso having good damage and enough mana its fine
     
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    reithal_yeet I make builds, both good and bad

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    Last edited: Mar 16, 2021
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    9o62 Well-Known Adventurer Builder

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    Weeb's build has much better mana sustain and can do chain lightning abuse
    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#5_0u20RZ0Jh0QR09q09q0K40og0Qw052M1f13051g0000101ZCO
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Vacarme
    > Medeis
    > Cinderchain
    > Dawnbreak
    > Black Catalyst
    > Black Catalyst
    > Prowess
    > Tenuto
    > Thrundacrack [f6f6t6t6]
    This can work but it's not very tanky but has 27k uppercuts with Courage and Dbreak is a probably a lot cheaper then Slayer.
     
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    Diddi Well-Known Adventurer

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    Always powder your second fire in the last slot it gives more dmg https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#5_0u20RZ0Jh0QR09q09q0K40og0Qw052M1f13051g000010336O compared to https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#5_0u20RZ0Jh0QR09q09q0K40og0Qw052M1f13051g0000101ZCO
     
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  8. touhoku

    touhoku heavy spell pioneer Item Team CHAMPION

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    I might stray away from this one because of the -hpr and e/w/a elemental defenses but seeing vacarme usage is always cool
     
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    BrightDanny Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#5_06...0Qf1B0S2I1t0c1g10009I10009I10009I10009I1004fI

    Build I've been theorizing, 14-15k uppercuts, 90-100k EHP with warscream (you're warrior so 100% upkeep), Rhytm of the seasons swap for quick healing.

    11 mana regen + 2 mana steal, so you can spam spells for Concentration.

    If you're good with rotations, you can achieve 20k+ uppercuts due to concentration and the fact that idol is pure water damage (so the water damage of concentration is very effective).

    If you are mastering it, you can get 30k uppercuts if you can upkeep concentration and curse.

    I've not worked long on this build, so I expect feedback/improvements from others.

    Please keep in mind that for high content, a high eHP versus a bit less dps usually works out better, because moving or dying is loss of dps, especially as a non-ranged class.

    Idol is expensive, sorry, but I did not find any limitations in your post.

    (PS: Enable warscream in wynnbuilder, and use EDIT ID if you want to manually add the estimated water damage increase from Concentration powder on armour)

    EDIT: You could also cycle bash and uppercut, if you're fast
     
  10. touhoku

    touhoku heavy spell pioneer Item Team CHAMPION

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    I might be a little worried about 2/2 costs with 11/4 mana regen, but it should be fine for a reasonable upper/bash pace.

    Cool build! Always nice to see more RoTS offhand builds
     
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    BrightDanny Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Your base mana regen is 4/4 (you get 1 mana every second) so you can add that on top of the 11/4, it also has 2/4 mana steal, which should help alot if you're surrounded :)

    If you weave bash inbetween, this should be able to sustain you :)

    I'll try if I can come up with a way to make it 1 cost!
     
  12. reithal_yeet

    reithal_yeet I make builds, both good and bad

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    Thank you everyone
     
  13. touhoku

    touhoku heavy spell pioneer Item Team CHAMPION

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    Base mana regen is actually 5/4s, so it's 16 total on this build (although people have been skeptical about the 4s cycle potentially being more like 4.5 lately). One cycle of uppercancel (upper + bash) costs 4 mana, and if you are clicking 6 cps precisely, that'll take 16/4s, which lines up. Definitely enough mana for precise play but could potentially be punishing if you mess up.

    I'm not counting the mana steal because I wouldn't ever melee with this build. The melee dps is not the point of the build, and RoTS means you aren't relying on life steal.
     
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    BrightDanny Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Yes, tickrate is 20t/s, but wynncraft laggs so I calc it closer to 4 (to be safe)

    Fair point with other argument :)

    EDIT: BTW, you could make 1/4 mana food that lasts literally one hour if you need the extra buffer x)
     
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    touhoku heavy spell pioneer Item Team CHAMPION

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    Yeah, true, consumables are often each to patch up builds with :)

    This does show just how powerful getting 1/1 costs is though -- by the same logic as before, you only really need 3/4s mana to 6cps precisely (although most of us in AIn are clowns and build like 10/4s for 1/1), so even getting 7mr on a 1/1 build is plenty.
     
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    BrightDanny Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    @touhoku

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#5_06...0Qf1B0R2I1n0b1g10009I10009I10009I10009I1004fI

    8/4 (+4/4 natural), 1 cost, slightly better damage, 10%~less tankiness.

    Up to people to determine what they like, if someone with money would like to try this! Haha :)

    Thanks for the feedback, it is always nice to see other people with knowledge finetuning eachother's builds :)

    About the "I build more regen than I need" part, it's good for panic heal with RotS in this case, haha. Sometimes you just need more mana :)

    In perfect static combat it's easy to calc what you need, but usually you need to move sometimes, haha
     
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    touhoku heavy spell pioneer Item Team CHAMPION

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    Nice!
    Here's my take on it:

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#5_0lS0JX0uF0tv0K20U60KS0og0Qf-Y0i2I14-Y1g00001004fI
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Sizzling Shawl
    > Anima-Infused Cuirass
    > Infernal Impulse
    > Pro Tempore
    > Moon Pool Circlet
    > Detective's Ring
    > Hamsey's Brilliance
    > Tenuto
    > Idol [w6w6w6]

    Much higher damage, still plenty of mana for 1/1 costs, and removes the need to switch to an offhand to heal, at the cost of the 'tankiness' from agility. Still plenty tank for anything IMO, especially with the better elemental defs.

    Edit: some people find -hpr annoying anyway, but you can use tomes to patch that up if needed :D
     
  18. BrightDanny

    BrightDanny Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Very nicely done. With potions or buffs in raids it should easily hold itself as well in raids(40k eHP is on the low side for TCC, as I've experienced on some of my builds)

    Yes, tomes are very good, especially the stat point ones!
     
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    9o62 Well-Known Adventurer Builder

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    Yeah Vacarme is nice
    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#5_0VR0JX0Jh0QR09q09q0ZR0og0Qw-b2M1416-a1g000010336O
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Neuron
    > Anima-Infused Cuirass
    > Cinderchain
    > Dawnbreak
    > Black Catalyst
    > Black Catalyst
    > Remikas' Authority
    > Tenuto
    > Thrundacrack [f6t6t6f6]
    It has 2k less uppercuts but ele defs are much less extreme and no -hpr and I think it looks nice for a tcrack build
     
  20. touhoku

    touhoku heavy spell pioneer Item Team CHAMPION

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    Good overall but I don't know if that mana can sustain 1/2 -- idk if you saw in AIn discord earlier but we've all but confirmed that mana runs on a 5 second cycle independent of tick lag, so this might be a bit short.

    Replace bracelet with Dragons Eye and use tomes to get 68 int for 1/1, I think that'll be fine
     
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