Champion Rank Has Ruined Proffing (and Bomb Parties In General)

Actually this is NOT true. Several champion-ranked players say it has flaws.

 

I think where the divergence in thought occurs, is when you assume you're entitled to getting in bomb worlds at all. You don't need bombs to play wynn at all, sure it is nice but like I said you're not entitled to it so why does it matter. Moreover, even without champion slots it was next to impossible to get into a party unless you were there prior to the start even before champion ranks existed. At a certain point you just gotta enjoy the game and move on with your life.

 

Yeah I've heard Champion players call out how flawed the rank is, it's just that it's not the case here.

I'm not saying I'm entitled to bombs, I just think that paying to have a greater chance of getting into these bomb worlds is unfair to people who can't afford it.

You don't need bombs, sure, but for high-level proffing it's going to be incredibly slow without bombs, even if you do have GXP armour.

 

So far, every pay to win feature has been mostly accepted because they all directly help other players. Champion slots, bomb bell, and /switch actively all harm other players. Of course, you don't need bombs, but grinding without them is very hard, especially with profs on dxp weekends and such.

Also, it was not impossible to get into servers before. It could take a minute or two if you were lucky. Now, it literally is impossible to get in if champions fill the 5 slots. Do you seriously expect people to just say "Oh, ok, high-level proffing has been put behind a $160 paywall, that's fine, I'll just spend 4+ times as long on profs or give up!"?

Sure, no one should be entitled to other people's bombs unless the thrower wanted them to be there, but at least before everyone had a chance. That's all we're asking for, a chance for everyone to get in. What you're asking for is that everyone with a rank below you isn't allowed to enter if the server is full.

 

Then please do not say all champion-rank players are like that. It is just an insult

This is not true. Many times during DPX weekend I eventually got there. Maybe it took some time, but I did it.

Yes, that is with everything. But what is the context here? I don't like something so I should move on with my life? This doesn't make any sense.

 

What I’m saying is a large amount of Wynn players will sit in the lobbies for hours waiting for bombs, you yourself said you would eventually get in implying you would wait in the lobbies, perhaps it’s time to stop min maxing grinding and just play the game. I’m sorry you’ve morphed your play style so much it changes how you feel about the game because you can’t get bombs. That lies on no one besides yourself

 

my guys its just a rank , it may be p2w but i dont think devs are gana change it anytime soon , no need for this to get heated

 

firstly, it's not impossible to get into servers now you just gotta be attentive and know the right people, secondly high level proffing isn't behind a paywall you're just to lazy to do it without bombs, thirdly the difference between a bomb and a non bomb server is 100% gain that's not equivalent to 4x speed(unless were talking about crafting profs but they're already easier to level anyway).

 

i seem to get in fine , idk what problems other people are having getting into lobbies lol

 

I think, and several other people have said the same thing, that the issue is in how champion slots work. If they were separated from the rest of the player slot pool, it would be mostly fine, but again as other people have said making them count towards the main player pool increases the difficulty of getting into a filled bomb-server from slightly hard to straight-up impossible until the champions leave. Then even if they do leave you STILL have to wait for 1 other person from the main player pool to leave, during which time you have no guarantee that another champion could come in and just fill up that slot again. Not only does it make it extremely unlikely for people to get into the servers, it also has a ripple effect of making a lot of people not want to drop bombs at all, or if they do not being able to generate a party because the server is already filled with champions skimming off of your bomb.

TLDR Champion sucks, but also makes it harder to have dungeon or prof bomb parties in general.

 

IMO, I don’t think that champion slots should be removed, as long as they change the fact that them existing has decreased the chance for non-champion players to get onto worlds with bombs.

If there was some way to separate champion slots and normal slots completely (so that champions don’t feed into normal player slots) to allow for champions to access the worlds as well as keeping the old 1.19 way for non-ranked players.

idk how this is possible which may be the problem, but I’m sure something can be done.

 

Capitalism! It just works!

 

Ok, if you don't need bombs to play, then why not remove the bomb bell, and change reserved slots to be less stupid?
Or do you only not need bombs to play when it benefits you?

 

1) still harms others
2) it starts a dangerous precedent (same with prof reqs in quests btw)

 

what im saying is they prob wont change it anytime soon

 

I don't think I've ever joined a full server or used the bomb bell since I bought champion... so it doesn't really benefit me, I didn't even buy champion for the perks, just to support the server lol

 

That is probably the case, sadly (imo)

 

Ok, so you're fine with removing it?

 

no because there is a legitimate reason other than it "hurts" people

 

Ok, if you don't need bombs to play, then why not remove the bomb bell, and change reserved slots to be less stupid?
Or do you only not need bombs to play when it benefits you?