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I was wondering for quite some time.... why do people even buy those crafts? the average not trashy tailoring-craft costs around 24 le give or take a few le. Why do people fall for those lq crafts when the soft cap for lq is as 40 lq? What most lq sellers do is craft suboptimal stuff and sell it to you since you are hyped to use lq to get mythics. When you are just the average dude watching a youtube video from a year ago where people talked about lq being overpowered prenerfs. Eventually you will realize that you spend your le on trash when you could have saved it to craft your own lq gear. This scam needs to end. Lq crafters are making way to much money using bad crafts to rip new people off.

Edit: I do not blame lq crafters/sellers. I just want to spread awareness to those who dont know.

 

I mean crafting is rng + production costs. the 250dura 15-21lq recipe is 2 elephelk 1 decay heart and 18 t3 dernic assuming no speed bombs and goes for ~2stx of le production cost with speed bombs is ~9x1.5le + 3x 8eb + 8le + 2x(2.5 to 3.5le) total cost of 24 - 28le + 56eb which means you only really profit if you get 19 to 21lq with the general sell price of 14-26 le for 15 + 17lq(though selling 17lq for 26 is a bit of stretch on its own) and 30-2stx for higher means the best form of LQ in terms of easyish optimal gear would result in a net loss to craft yourself if you get unlucky. considering it's basically a flip of a coin to whether or not you lose money which makes it so crafting lq of 250 dura is only worth the cost if you craft a lot of them to sell. Buyers of the 250 dura are mainly experienced lootrunners (this is assuming you're referring to the 250dura recipe as the optimal thing 220dura is 6le cheaper but still subject to the same rng with lq rolls but ings are far harder to buy and the market usually feeds these ings into 170dura instead and though easier to get profitable lq is also still a pain in the rng department if you happen to be unlucky). 170dura lq is also kind of still bad since ssuming you're unlucky it still costs ~14+le to make (8+ 24eb + 1le + 3x1.5le + 6x15eb) with the 1/8 chance of getting 15lq which would have less dura than 220 low lq recipe for 50% more price with 17le 170dura being about 6-7le in profits though in market price it tends to be worth a lot more for crafters and people who may craft on their own than the better dura recipe but some people don't really like rng and the fact it can take a longer time to get the lq gear without the prof levels than to just buy and be over with it and start lootrunning with suboptimal yes but affordable gear that wont bankrupt them. Crafters also generally price by market price which can fluctuate over time though most will try to at least price in a way where they can make some amount of decent profit for the time investment and money investment. Here a lot of lootrunners wo are still starting out tend to have ~a stack of le at most or less than that and dont want to bankrupt themselves with optimal gear but just want something so they can start out and make money. Cheaper lq is less effective yes but when you're starting you generally don't care about optimizing everything and can usually still hit 35 lq decently easily with cheap accesories and cheap lq armour. for ~25-28le (also note that the optimal lunar charm recipe for lq accesories has an even smaller chance to get something worth your money but people still sell and buy them for ridiculous prices despit the fact it only really makes profit with 11+ lq which has a beautiful 10% chance)

lower LQ recipes cost less to make but also have significantly less lq but is more affordable to people who start lootrunning. while more endgame lootrunners sometimes exceed 40% lq optimizing by using disco to hit lb hardcap getting 21-23lq armour and using accessories + food to get past softcap for the small percentage inscreases that save time for hardcore lootrunner they spend stacks of le for optimizations which newer lootrunners cant afford. the cheapish options are usually most of what newer people can afford since most newer lootrunners generally dont have stacks of le to just throw into lootrunning gear the significantly cheaper le to lq ratio of the lower lq prices is probably why people buy them and because people buy them, people sell to meet the market demand. also note that LQ is used by ingredient grinders to grind rarer ingredients and mobs unlike chest shave no lq or lb caps and popularity of the cheaper lq probably rose with budget toa grinding back in the day but idk.

I have no clue myself as a non looturnner why people buy lower lq myself but considering how much time needs to be invested into crafts to get decent recipes, the cost of scrap, the rng and the problems with finding people to craft for you sometimes along with how hard it is to level profs is pain. Plus the above reasons are generally why I think they buyt it. (also if you are someone who buys or bought cheap lq message me your reason why since even as a sometimes LQ seller idk myself lol)

TLDR: there's demand for cheaper lq so people make and sell the cheaper lq because starter lootrunners can be too poor to afford the ingredients and materials for optimal recipes and crafting them is subject to rng that can make you lose quite a bit of money relative to starter lootrunners net worths before you even start lootrunning

 

“I mean crafting is rng + production costs” – its not just rng + production cost, that would mean that the person buying pays for the cost of the craft + the outcome. The problem with that is that everyone else can simply buy the mats/ingredients required for the craft and do it themselves while spending less money. Meaning they must be insane or just simply uninformed about the chances and investment costs.

So here are the lq before applying the effectiveness buffs:

6 lq = 1/8 , 7 lq = 3/8 ; 8 lq = 2/8 ; 9 lq = 1/8

Assuming people craft lq gear without dspeed bombs is foolish. No one does this. The price for the craft is as stated 24-28 le for almost anyone.

If you craft 8 times, you will pay on average 208le. You will get 1x 15 lq; 3x 17 lq; 2x19 lq and 1x21 lq. If you look at the current market prices you will see that most stuff there is priced way higher than the crafting costs.It would be a smart idea to spend a little more money on a craft and sell the bad result for less/ same as the investment cost. (given you have 250 dura, which is way better in the long run, you spend less money on scrap and therefore will save money in the end). Saving on 10 le might seem like a lot, but eventually you will lose out on money you spend for scrap or decide to buy/craft the optimal gear with more durability anyway. I did a similar mistake with low level rares, when I was leveling, which cost me a lot of le in the end.

Most people are not limit by prof levels to craft since anyone in the prof community offers to craft for other people for the sheer reason of free xp. If you need a craft join the profession discord and just post in the request section.

Imo the best craft is 23 lq, but that is for personal reasons. I use lq in a way more effective way than most people. The statement about using lq to grind ingredients is just wrong. Lq works in the same as lb when it comes to looting mobs. Therefore, the goal is to stack as much lb as you can since you can get higher lb stats than lq. People even go for lb stats of 560 lb and more to ensure a 100% drop rate on t3s from rare mobs. Toa griding is not a thing because of ingredients or anything of that nature. After I spend 16 stx last year to craft perfect lq gear the wynncraft team decided to nerf lq on chests and therefore I tried various spots with the help of alexxx to figure out a new good way to utilize lq. This is the story of the invention of toa. Toa just worked because lq nerver was nerfed on mobs. Nowadays there is “no publicly” known spot that works in the same way as toa worked last patch. (I won’t leak anything again ) .

As far as crafting lq accessories goes. Just do not do it. I know the mat prices have fallen hard since I did it, but its not profitable in the long run.

Take home message of that long thread: I guess we both agree on those: Buying bad lq is a waste of money and its better to save up on le and craft 250 dura. It might seem like a big investment, but you will thank me later.

Edit: I dont get the pricing for lq food either. Crystallized organs went for 159e each yesterday (I know someone bought them all) and dernic meat/grains are dead cheap.
Spending 0,5 le on a craft that costs literally 1/4 of le with more crystallized organs yielding more lq seems kinda random. I mean why do people even use food that lasts less than 10 min per use in the first place. When people with full gear barely manage to loot a server in 40min with warp.

 

As someone who is associated with the 2 largest ing grinders on the server and as someone who tested the function of LQ on mobs drop ings LQ does in fact affect the rate of rare ings drops with grinding(on certain mobs at least and considering trade alliance rules I can't leak em)

But yea I agree shit is confusing when it comes to prices and why they're high but like with gxp armour being originally high before lowering and now changing every so often it can fluctuate and change with the demand and especially confusing for food, except cheesecakes those are just meme items at this point with free entry to the cheesecake cult of wynn

 

idk but as long as you hit 40 lq frankly your gear doesn't actually matter so

 

nooooooo all the cheesecakes are gone ;-;

 

Ik this thread is supposed to die out but, this statement is kinda dumb.
First you have to source those ingredients & mats from somewhere, that takes time.
Second, 24-28 is a conservative estimate. With current market prices, its more like 30 minimum [8le hearts, 2x 5le trunks, 9x dernic 1.25le + currency], and thats being generous
Third, thats the point, on average. You can get screwed over easily, and do you want to take the risk for that? Now, saying you indeed got average and get 8 pieces of lq, you just crafted 7 pieces you dont need. Congratulations, more time for you to spend trying to sell it. And this assumes you have the 4 stacks to craft one of the two pieces you need. It is also not guaranteed that you are selling those lq gear. Current profit for each lq craft 15lq : -12-20le 17lq : -10-15le 19lq : 5-15le 21lq: 1.5stx
LQ is basically gambling, with alot of other steps.

Not to mention, crafting alot of lq crashes its value, even more fun

As for lq food, the time it takes to source mats its not worth the time spent on lring, dont forget time has value. 32eb is nothing when you dont have to find a crafter, buy mats, buy ings etc

 

When the thread was create it acutally was around that price range. Ingredient and mat prices just highly flucturate. 2 weeks ago dernic ingots went for 2.5 le each now some mats go for less than 1le. I never suggested some1 to craft lq for profit. What I stated is that its smarted to craft it yourself. As far as food goes I never suggested to use food for lootrunning. Sourceing the mats to craft food is not that difficult. I spend little to no time crafting a whole bank page of it last weekend. You are right about lq being more risky to craft now especially with the slowly dieing supply of decaying hearts due to the nerf in 1.20