Info Item Team Thread - Item/ingredient/major Id Changes, Updates & More

- Dawnbreak change makes it less annoying to use (also -tiers nerf because e balancing). Not much else to say there.
- Interesting sp changes on the Rainbow mythics, generally these seem neat.
- Crater Print rework makes it fairly good in spell and mediocre in fast melee, which is definitely an improvement, although it is very annoying that earth almost never gets fully offensive items while thunder regularly does...
- Ex Nihilo e e
- What was the point of that Electro Mage's Boots nerf? I know I argued in favor of this design choice before (high req spell costs) but the items also need to be good for that req?
- Vacarme kinda weak now...

 

I feel like Electro Mage's Boots should either get a lower requirement or lose the positive second spell cost.
Mythic skill point changes are really nice.
Another Ex Nihilo nerf? :Yahya:
Dawnbreak buff looks nice, at least it's usable now, but just like Galleon, Crusade Sabatons and Revenant it won't really be used on builds.

 

Dawnbreak is a mythic item.

As far as I know the IT wants to make Collapse a glass cannon, but 20 points on str is a bit too slight.
Still coLLapse :(

Singu is OP in TCC.

waiting for the picture that shows an overall 11% re[5] Freedom in exchange for an un-ided Strati

Good job. Now rainbow builds have an alternative choice.

 

My thoughts.

More or less makes Dawnbreak more accessible to use now, may need to do the skill point requirement that was done on Dawnbreak to maybe Warchief and Stardew.

Buffing Collapse and Singularity while nerfing Nullification and Freedom, interesting.

Might be interesting to try in a strength and intelligence build, I don't really have much to say about it.

Definitely is going to kill Ex Nihilo a bit more, was a pretty good item, especially for spell builds.

Is going to be interesting for intelligence and dexterity builds, could be good with an uppercancel if used right.

Libra's still about the same except it has a little bit of mana regen now.

 

Not sure I see the point of that lifesteal nerf on dawnbreak but I suppose the reduction of -hpr and the -20 in reqs is really damn nice. It defiantly has its place in melee and t/f heavy hybrid.
But wow FREEDUMB IS FINALLY GETTING A NERF IT NEEDS FUCKING FINALLY
I must ask though. Why the sp req increase on libra? I mean I get the mana regen but it just seems kinda odd.

 

Episode 1 of meaningful freedom nerfs

 

One last ingredient change for 1.20 that should be live:

Ritual Catalyst:
Spell Damage: 20 to 24 -> 10 to 12
Earth Damage: 0 -> -22 to -18

Everything on the running logs should also be live with the release of 1.20!

 

Having tried the new and improved Anime-Infused Cuirass out, I'm really enjoying the change. The -2nd spell cost was never that useful to begin with since most builds with decent intel already have it fairly low, but the 2/4 mana is really useful, especially since TWF doesn't have a ton of mana regen items to begin with.

 

Is there a list of all new items and ings?im too dumb to find it

 

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Earth powder 6652 and two luxroot time...

 

Is attachment b going to be in-game? cause it would match my build perfectly

 

I understand abso had to be nerfed, but after using it in 1.20 I feel like it was over nerfed. It seems very strange for a mythic weapon not to give any skill points. Reverting it back to its 1.19.2 state would be more appropriate in my opinion, especially considering the overall nerf to shaman.

 

A good build still does 8.5k auras and heals 1k per second. I get maybe a bit of a buff but to say its bad when its got more tank than any other relik and even more tank than pre patch watched and does what its designed to do.

 

How much defense/ehp
also mana/spellcost

So far I think abso got way overnerfed. I want to remind people that it also has no powder special, so it can't use courage/curse multipliers to actually get big dmg boosts like everything else can.

 

I didn't say it was bad, I think the hp, mana and damage nerfs were deserved, I just think they went too far removing all the def sp. Lowering it to what it used to be would have been more appropriate.

 

The build I was quoting was an wfa resurgence build I don't remember but I can try to recreate it later
anyways here's a twf with 11.6k auras nearly 40k ehp 1-1-2-2 costs and 890 regen ticks
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/#4_0lS0JX0Jh0I60K20050TN0og0QI-Z0r141p-Z1g00000

 

another build with 115 defense instead of 150.

the sp change really is a huge deal. finding 100 +50 defemse on top of everything else is hard, especially since the best sp boosters (moontower, dark shroud) are agi items. You have to make sacrafices in damage, health, mana, int, or all, otherwise you just aren't tanky.

 

I had a watched build with 1k hp ticks and 36k ehp and I can tell ya I didn't have survivability troubles. I suppose having 115 instead of 150 defense doesn't make you a facetank like warrior but you still got absolutely unmatched heal ticks and that's very clearly what the weapon's design is intended for.

 

Watched comes with rainbow defs and a def-agi split. Fully def based tanks with some negative ele defs do much worse than mixed sp + rainbow def tanks, and even without the negative ele defs the rainbow tank build with good ehp will be tankier than a normal tank build.

Watched also has a powder special to do damage, whereas abso damage all comes from endurance. You can't tank hits consistently enough to build up endurance without the higher defense + healing.

Abso isn't just a healing stick like KoH. It's a mythic relik. Lament and Monster for example get good heals, high survivability and sp boosts, decent damage, plus curse/courage support.

 

I get what you mean with the defense vs agility and defense split however I disagree with it being unable to deal sufficient damage.
Personally I think abso is perfectly fine in its nerfs but rather shaman's heal nerfs across the board shouldn't have been reduced to 3% from 4%