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Should Wynn Update To 1.17?

Discussion in 'Questions' started by Spakian, Jan 30, 2021.

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  1. Spakian

    Spakian Wandering in your dreams

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    With the new update comes new features. Should Wynncraft update to 1.17 (like updating the map with new blocks and stuff)?

    Assume that the new map comes in instantly. Would you still want Wynncraft to update to 1.17? What new features would you want?

    I would like to see an ocean overhaul with the new ocean stuff and since the height limit is increasing, there are a ton more possiblities
     
  2. chyp5

    chyp5 untrained unprofessional idiot VIP+

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    I feel like updating isn’t an option until server lag on later versions is fixed, and the devs can do a lot with their current system.
     
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  3. DaCorruption

    DaCorruption Serves Dern.

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    silly we're already in 1.20 what are you talking about

    /s
     
  4. StormDragon4

    StormDragon4 Horribly Inactive HERO

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    This would require a full rework of the code.
     
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    fishcute fish CHAMPION Builder

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    They shouldn't update the backend stuff, since that's running on 1.8 and would be hard to update. Not to mention having to overhaul every single command block.

    However, the packet translator thing could be updated to be capable of handling 1.16 blocks. This would be much simpler, as only one part of the code would have to be modified. However, that part is probably huge and difficult to work with (albeit still far easier than updating everything). This has a lot of benefits to it, 1.8 is one of the best versions for server performance. And 1.16 is one of the best for client performance. Unfortunately the new spigot features wouldn't be able to be used, but the devs have gotten by with 1.8 so far.

    Considering the last update was almost all overhauls, they might want to do another more content based update before another update that's mostly build updates (although giving the ocean much more content would be a nice update, and fish).
     
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    shtnck eyh ckhhe Jesus of Nether-eth

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    nah, it would be too laggy and would require a lot of recoding and overhauling
     
  7. HoboMaggot

    HoboMaggot . ę̸͚̳̙̳̠͖̳̓̇̄̓͂̂̆ VIP+

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    1.12 is literally the last stable update for servers, before it starts to lag a ton. This most likely is the reason (because idk the relationship between the server and backend) why Wynncraft is stuck with 1.12 content and servers like 2b2t also remain on 1.12. This video explains it pretty well.
     
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    FoxxoChan Wynnian Photographer, Eye Pet Enthusiast CHAMPION

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    albeit the new 1.17 features, especially the increased world height could do wonders for wynn, i doubt they will update versions anytime soon unless mojang themselves fix the issues regarding multiplayer, and even then, if salted ever decides to update wynn to a higher version such as 1.17, the entire game would pretty much need to be redone again, and that could range from like 2 to even 3 years considering the complexity of wynn, and by that time wynn would be version outdated once again, so even tho it would allow the build team far more flexibility, alongside new commands and gamerules, it is extremely unlikely this would ever happen
     
  9. Melkor

    Melkor The dark enemy of the world HERO

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    There's a reason (or a number of them) they haven't updated since 1.8. Multiplayer in Minecraft is not particularly stable and has become less stable over the years (try hosting even a private vanilla server on 1.13 and you'll see what I mean), and does not work smoothly. In addition, commands and redstone have been hugely reworked and would likely need to be rebuilt from the ground up. But more importantly than either, all of the plugins would likely need to be remade as well. They've been able to include some features of more recent updates through coding magic, but fully updating seems to be out of the question from what they've said in the past.
     
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    Nukewarmachine emerald tier above LE when VIP

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    I assume if the staff team worked full-time on converting Wynn’s codebase to something that is compatible with 1.17, any future updates would be delayed by years at least, not to mention updating already-existing builds* with the new blocks, and I also think said conversation, if successful, may already be a full update by itself; although by the time this happened, Wynn’s player count would have dropped significantly due to a lack of updates/new content

    *The structures, not the item combos that players use

    Also add poll pls
     
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  11. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Eh, at this point Jelly's mods can basically take 1.16 to 1.12 levels of performance.

    Regardless, Wynncraft is not likely to change its backend structure out of 1.8 anytime soon, particularly due to the commands structure changing.
     
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    1) too laggy after 1.12 for servers.
    even if smh the lag gets fixed,
    2) it takes 6 months for just hypixel skyblock to switch from 1.8 to 1.17, imagine a server like wynncraft which has so many numerous commands and all. it would not be worth the time.
     
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    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    I've already made 2 threads on things that could be added if this happened (one of them is 1.16)
    Thread 1
    Thread 2
     
  16. Spakian

    Spakian Wandering in your dreams

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    They are good, except both are locked and are fairly old.

    I just wanted to bring back the topic (And I started posting here 'bout a month ago so I didn't see that)
     
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    Zitrine Lore-kun CHAMPION

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    As much as I'd love it for the build team to have that many more choices in terms of well, building, I'm saying what everyone else is saying; it's a compatibility issue. :(
     
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    Epiqlus Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    If they update to 1.17 Will that mean that Wynntils will have to update every Wynncraft mod will have to have 1.17 versions
     
  19. Spakian

    Spakian Wandering in your dreams

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    The point of my thread was to discuss what issues would be there and if there were no issues, what new things would we see if Wynn updated to 1.17
     
  20. Nukewarmachine

    Nukewarmachine emerald tier above LE when VIP

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    finally see the original topic of this thread :D
    Assuming all the issues were worked out, I think the improved height limit would be useful for building big towers and mountains, and the new blocks would go well with certain areas, same thing with the new mobs too
     
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