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Hey, Why Wasn't There A Rollback? ( Massive Dupe Issue Discussion )

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Saya, Dec 27, 2020.

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  1. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    What issues?
     
  3. Shuori

    Shuori Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    mm yes i support this idea, despite grinding profs and getting 106 finally i feel that a rollback is still worth it
     
  4. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    phrasing of options and overall selection of choices would have to be very very well done and I'm not too good at phrasing or thinking ahead so
     
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    Tekenen Professional Loser VIP+

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    since there's no poll I'll just support the rollback by commenting !
     
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    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    Sorry, can somebody put this into perspective for me as I haven't really heard about this previously. And even reading a few pages of replies doesn't help much, how much have the prices of mythics increased on average in the market in this short period of time?
     
  7. ramenstew

    ramenstew professional idiot HERO

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    Made a thread stating solutions and like five different people said “leave it alone it’ll die down by itself lol”
     
  8. DominikGamer

    DominikGamer Nothing to see here HERO

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    I support a rollback.
     
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    I definitely agree for a rollback
     
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  10. ReReverse

    ReReverse Social Anxiety (no longer) in a can! CHAMPION

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    +1 for the rollback
     
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  11. M3G4W3R7Y

    M3G4W3R7Y winner of third annual atlas games wooooooo HERO

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    Those ten stacks arent worth anything without a rollback. also im in full support of a rollback
     
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  12. brixt01

    brixt01 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    I understand that compared to the bigger picture, it would make sense. What I’m trying to say is that I can’t fully agree with this option purely because of the hours people have spent over the last few days, and that people should be trying to think of other options, as opposed to just looking at the first and most obvious option and going head on with it.
     
  13. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Yeah, I think no one wants immediate rollback with no though.

    There would be too much damage done for this to be a possibility
     
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  14. Miles_

    Miles_ hi CHAMPION

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    We absolutely need a rollback. The economy getting fucked by huge inflation is way more important than someone's profs. Someone's gonna get fucked over in this situation, it just makes way more sense that the economy is saved in the long run than people lose some time on profs, which, by the way, can be compensated for somewhat with txp/dxp. I'm usually not the one to complain about the economy. In fact, I think most peoples' complaints about the economy are wrong and often stem from a lack of understanding, but this is extremely dangerous no matter how you look at it. Its a very tricky situation though, because of recent store purchases, too. I bought hero recently so I'd be worried about that. Its a tough situation. If a rollback is possible whilst people maintain store purchases I'd like that.
     
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  15. ZockerCam

    ZockerCam Travelling sorcerer. Master of Wind Magic. VIP+

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    Mythics are still "worth" the same but the money (emeralds) are worthless now

    What that means is that a mythic that previously cost 1 stack or le might cost 10 stacks of le now
     
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  16. Casparof

    Casparof mythic counter: 2 HERO

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    i can make a whole thread why no roll back and why we do need a rolback. but im just gonna say i support a rollback
     
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    brixt01 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    Yeah, I don’t see why everyone seems to be protesting for a rollback, despite this now being days of work down the drain at this point. If anything, we should be wanting a rollback less and less as time goes on, though I know at this point it isn’t completely ruled out.
     
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  18. LiteralSatan

    LiteralSatan The Disco Charity accepts all contributions CHAMPION

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    Fuck, I literally got my Archer from like level 30 all the way to 105 during that time, and finally bought VIP+, it would be incredibly demoralizing to completely lose it and all the items I got for it. Not to say I'm not in support of a rollback, it's just a really hard and shitty decision that either way will probably kill my engagement in Wynncraft as a whole.
     
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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Hard? Yes
    Shitty? Depends on the context and how they would do it.

    The problem is the recent DXP weekend
     
  20. Bart

    Bart Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    I have no clue exactly how Wynn's infrastructure is organized but depending on the infrastructure it should be possible to do a partial rollback while also keeping some progress.

    Since for this bug the Trade Market was used, the most obvious thing is rollbacking the trade market. This might be possible depending on a few things, if:
    - rerolling the database of the trade market removes the LE used to buy items, the LE people got when selling overpriced items and returning the sold items to the player who sold them. (a.k.a. people's net worth should be back to where it was BEFORE the dupe)
    - you can filter out legitimate transactions, if someone who didn't had a lot of money bought some gear (a.k.a. spent almost all his money), it should not be rollbacked > filter out the transactions <5stx (or filter it out depending on not only the price but also the rarity) - obviously there might have been overpriced items for under <5stx but that affects the economy a lot less


    I personally think that this is pretty complex to do and you almost can't prevent a complete rollback due to the size of the dupe. Although what is possible to keep, as far as I know, are the class levels & profession levels gained during dxp week. This has nothing to do with the trade market and apart from having to redo quests (because the more simple rollback would just be rollback both trade market & bank, not having to worry bout returning sold items/removing LE/etc but since you might lose items gained during quests it's better to wipe quest progess aswell)..

    It's tough tho, since I also really dislike the idea of my progress in the dxp week gone.
     
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