Divzer Update Locks It To Etw With -defense

Yes, actually, I tried doing your new boss altar with it and died instantly without even being able to see the boss fight. I then switched to Freedom and did it first try.

It baffles me why changes like this even go through. This was exactly what happened to Divzer last year, last hero beta (back then I tried doing The Eye with the nerfed Divzer and it was impossible -- did it first try with Freedom).

Even in its current state Divzer is just a fun, highly sought after item that isn't even as good as some of the other archer mythics. Why destroy it and force every single Divzer user to completely remake their builds?

Nobody wanted this change last year when it was proposed, nor does anyone want it this year.

 

Eh, in it's current state Divzer is pretty OP. But this nerf takes it from either the strongest or second strongest mythic bow (Freedom moment...) to definitively the worst outside of Az.

 

Then why can't the item team make minor nerfs that keep items in check instead of completely trying to repurpose them, in the process making literally everyone angry and forcing every single user to remake their build???

If it's too op then tweak the item, don't destroy it. Reduce some of its life steal or mana steal, lower its dexterity bonus, lower its damage, whatever, don't make it unusable for everyone

 

They basically destroyed 80% of all builds which was not necessary at all. Some weak decisions there

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I literally have no clue what they were thinking. They nerfed Diamond Hydro Necklace to the point where it becomes almost useless and they removed the +12 intel, which basically destroys a lot of all spellcaster builds. I know that they try their best (probably) but Im really mad and cant understand those changes.

Divzer is basically dead too. Where is the logic? A mythic thats almost equally as strong as a legendary.

 

Just an idea, but maybe this def reducing thing makes it a bow used by more skilled players who really want a challenge? That's why I used it anyway, high damage for a high stake. It's really fun being that glassy for me anyway and I guess being TW or ETW gives you more damage than before.

Of course I'd prefer to not have the nerf, but I feel that's what the item team was intending. I'll continue to use this as it's a lot less boring than having no risk, also I can still kick ass >:)

 

Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, if the item team wants to have a divzer-like item that is optimized for ETW builds, just make a new item. Don’t change pre-existing items this much fundamentally especially since people have spent countless stacks and grinded countless hours to obtain one (along with the optimal gear to complement it in a build).

 

if you want everything to be so challenging why would you use divzer?

I'm pretty sure mythics aren't suppose to make the game harder

 

I totally agree that the divzer nerf is stupid. I can understand giving it like -20 defense, which I think would be perfectly resonable. But effectively locking it to etw is honestly really dumb. Yeah it was the best or second best bow in the game but the only bow better than it revived minimal nerfs just balancing it a little while divzer gets nuked.

 

Every other mythic can be used in multiple ways. Even cata can be anything from etw to tfa. Deleting 73 defense just to have maybe 10 or 20 left over doesn't mean this isn't just like hyperglass etw, and it's a huge waste of sp on a sp tight mythic. I'm not saying you should just make it -50 defense either; I don't think divzer should have any -defense (or if it has to to not receive a dmg nerf, it shouldn't be more than -20 to reward building etw but also make defense builds totally viable still).

Just because you enjoy etw/fast hybrid and divzer's new "playstyle" doesn't mean it should be the only option for people who already own the mythic. Of course, it also is a huge nerf that puts divzer below the other mythic bows imo.

 

man i really did want to avoid making another comment on this particular subject because i know nothing i, or any of the community will say, will be ignored unless salted himself is brought; but i found this comment from alex REALLY telling about how shit the item team is at balancing items

the item team didnt balance anything because it just took the focus of something that was OP, and pushed it onto something that was ALSO known to be incredibly fucked busted. you didnt get any where closer to balancing the game, and instead you just made the community much more upset with your team of balancers than before

 

I've been looking at some of the build options for still having 30+ defense after divzer. Most of them are just carried by medis + sparkweaver adding 30 sp each, and thus they end up with bad 2/3 storm/bomb spellcosts, no room to even consider adding nighthawk, and lower damage per spell. They aren't good builds; they're just all of the highest sp tw/tf items slapped together. These factors combined should leave divzer with less than half the dps it gets in 1/2 cost nighthawk twf builds in 1.19 (8 mana per storm/storm/bomb cycle instead of 5, no nighthawk, nighthawk nerfed 33% even if you fit it with no defense, not enough mana/cost to spellspam). The meta 1.19 builds even have more defense.

 

I don't understand how the change even got considered. From what I remember this change was already pushed in Hero Beta on an earlier update and completely failed. Why nerfing divzer this hard, ESPECIALLY since more difficult content is being added was even considered makes my brain eat shit.

 

Bumping this thread for visibility. I'm going to make sure people pay attention to this and that the item team is going to listen to our concerns.

 

Im glad that my divzer sold before update

 

This change looks really bad :/ Does any other mythic items may get similar poorly thought change?
Btw if we are already talking about bad ideas, will we get new mr ingredients for armouring and tailoring?
Beacause choice of mr ings for these prof is very limited and after nerf of bottled fairy it will be even more restricted :/

 

One thing I can't fathom is why limit a weapon like this in such a way?
It's a mythic, isn't it supposed to be an awe-flashy and awesome weapon in a way like no other?
I can understand balancing of items within fabled category and lower(especially since they are easier to acquire), but at times, I take a look at patch notes for mythics, and cannot grasp at why sometimes an item of that category needs to be nerfed or changed in a way that would severely limit the potential of building around that item. This is one of them.

 

Well, there is a LOT of mythics found, so they need to be balanced like other items.

 

Sure, many mythics are found, but only a ridiculously small amount of the playerbase has a mythic, and the number of players that have multiple mythics (excluding Archangel, Az, etc) is even smaller. They should still be balanced to an extent yes (as with Alka being game-breaking back in 2016), but not nerfed and bottlenecked into a certain playstyle like the item team is forcing on Divzer right now.

 

Sooo I'm guessing my Divzer is gonna be sitting on the market for a bit

 

yes balanced like other items, not nerfed so severely that major utility is lost