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SPOILER This Isn't What I Meant By "buff Warrior."

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by JaydonTheWarrior, Dec 8, 2020.

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  1. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin. HERO

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    Uppercut in 1.20 is basically a big AoE.
    I'm not quite sure what to say about this, beyond that at best, it's some slight extra damage to minions in boss fights, and at worse, its not an even bigger inconvenience to people partying with warriors. What's worth pointing out is that you can't uppercut cancel things that are behind you! So, unfortunately to all of you partying up with warriors, if they uppercut cancel a minion, and the boss flys up due to that, well all I can say is I'm sorry, it's not their fault.

    Honestly, it's not notable. The change itself isn't that big of a deal. It's bearly a buff or a debuff, of which it is both. Really I make this thread for two reasons: Tell you guys about the change, and to state this, the changes to warrior they have made have been almost insulting. The community has almost universally agreed that warrior is in drier need of a rework, that things about it are fundamentally broken. There are been many threads that have suggested fixes, there are been many threads ripping apart its issues, and there are been many people simply begging for something. Instead of any of the things the community has suggested, instead of anything that would actually make a difference, we have been given a mostly half baked solution every single time:
    Strobe Light is just a bug fix,
    Charge giving resistance is annoying at best,
    Bash giving strength is a repeat of the last,
    Rally is broken and on a single item,
    and now this.

    It's annoying, there isn't much else to say.

    P.s. I wanted to write this in case a content team member or Salted reads this. Understand that normally when something has a bigger AoE, it is, in fact, a buff. The issue is uppercut itself. It has, undoubtedly, the least desirable effect in-game, lowering everyone else's DPS. If uppercut just dealt a bunch of damage, having it be a big AoE wouldn't be an issue, but it also removes mobs from combat, which lowers the damage of everyone else.
     
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  2. xSkiing

    xSkiing ! VIP

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    Base 8 mana uppers when?
     
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  3. Poprony

    Poprony First cata finder <o/ HERO

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    Villagers rlly be fly hackin in 1.20 huh
     
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  4. Salted

    Salted Game Design & Wynncraft Founder Staff Member Admin GM CHAMPION

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    its part of a wider change where we fixed some hitbox issues
     
  5. Ankarin

    Ankarin Wise Mystical Tree CHAMPION

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    so thaats why mage aoe got a "buff" too
     
  6. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin. HERO

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    While this be changed or?
    I mean, like I said, buff when solo, nerf with friends. So I'm not sure I mind either way.
     
  7. Epic_Chonker

    Epic_Chonker Well-Known Adventurer

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    I'm not what you'd call a " competitive player", I'm far from that, but something that I really wanted was melee builds to be more skill-based and just a overall improvement to most warrior items.
    Not only do I just not like spell builds, but my ping is also huge, so stuff like uppercut-canceling isn't even worth trying since what's the point of mastering the timing if it still won't work due to lag. But with melee warrior builds even if I have lag my hits will still registered (eventually), unlike the spells that might take some seconds to unload. So making it so that, for example, if you chain hits your damage will improve, would make melee warrior more viable and create more playstyles. (Of course, it has to be well balanced)
    I'm honestly sad that only spell warrior is getting buffs, I haven't really seen the new weapons so my opinion might change, but the new one with the rally major id just seems like a kick to the nuts for melee warriors.
    Let me remind you to take this with a grain of salt, like I said, my ping is bigger than my fps, so I will obviously have some problems with spells, and I'm not very competitive either, but melee builds are getting overshadowed by spell builds, whether or not they deserve that treatment is another topic
    PS: On a side note, charge might as well be deleted on some situations, the inconsistency is huge even if you have good ping
     
  8. GreenTheMeme

    GreenTheMeme Doing damage pleases me sexually

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    Is that the new texture pack? If so, the iron golem looks bonkers and the fire spear looks almost worse?
     
  9. Torpid

    Torpid Torpid Torpedo HERO

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    All of (correct me if its not all) the weapon models have been changed. I like a few but others i definitely prefer the original. The bow models especially, you went from being able to see almost your entire bow to just the very front of it. (If theres a way to fix this, again lmk)
     
  10. GreenTheMeme

    GreenTheMeme Doing damage pleases me sexually

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    There should be a thread detailing all the model changes. I like cool weapons dammit!
     
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  11. ?!

    ?! Famous Adventurer

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    wtf is that fire spear, its basically the same as before but smaller in the pov, in fps games that might be better but here it looks so weird...
     
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  12. HV_Metal

    HV_Metal Convergence VIP

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    I agree. Now it's just some tiny blade on a wide stick. It's a downgrade at most compared to the original.
     
  13. Kap'n Kronch

    Kap'n Kronch Warrior Purist HERO

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    Idk why people hate the small spear, personally i love that the fire spear now doesn't look like a fucking bastard sword taped onto the end of a stick and now looks more sleek.
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    Also I agree with everything Jaydon has said so far, other than charge and bash buffs being annoying, because they get cancelled by warscream anyways, making them unnoticeable.
     
  14. MikeTheRobot

    MikeTheRobot THE MOST BAD ASS MFER WHO EVER CRANKED HIS HOG

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    Wait but are we still allowed to use uppercut to fly as warrior? Because i feel that this would make it easier
     
  15. dr_carlos

    dr_carlos Morph Gang! VIP+

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    Sure why not uppercut is an intended feature...
     
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