[discussion]how Do You Think The Current 1.20 Changes Will Affect The Current Wynn Economy

Heya I think a central place where everyone is welcomed to discuss the new content of 1.20 and their impacts on the economy was needed considering 1.20 hero beta came out and thus the update is on its way

Remember to keep discussions civilized and most likely stay on topic, also that not every change will be permanent and that a hero beta can tweak a lotta things.

Here's some leads to talk about to start with:
-Corkian Amplifiers and their impact on gears stats
-Forgery chest giving mythics
-Gathering xp ingredients
-Balancing of items
-New items (gears, raid rewards, ingredients in general, etc.)
-The impact soul locking might have

Get discussing!

 

Boreal 10char

 

yea borrreal will surely drop in price very high, the ele dmg% of course dont matter but the hpr% cutting in half will be harsh, same can be said of hetusol and cancer, overall maybe WFA tanking items will take a price reduction

 

Good news on raid rewards, tomes and charms are all soulbound so there isn't too much to worry about there on a surface level. Some of the buffs might affect the economy in minor ways, but overall it shouldn't be an issue, thankfully.

 

After clearing all 7 dungeons, the mythic rate is 1%. That means 700 dungeons average per mythic. I HIGHLY doubt it'll have any massive economy impact.

 

The thing is, if you consider a party of four going in together, it takes 7 keys total and they can get through them insanely quickly and easily. For a solo player I would say it isn't worth it, but I think if a group got together they could easily get a mythic in a few hours with those odds at an insanely low entry cost. People are definitely going to be using this chest to farm mythics, if it's more effective then lootrunning is yet to be seen but I think there's a reasonable chance that mythics are actually going to drop in price because of this.

 

There is absolutely no chance this is going to be faster than lootrunning lol, these aren't 1 minute dungeons.

 

true tbh but a 1% chance is hella easier than 7/999999 chance

 

Pretty sure they actually said lootrunning was more efficient when they announced this

 

Thats not going to have much of an impact lmao. Lootrunning would still be more efficient. The group argument is pure bs. Just as you can say people can go in groups and get more mythics, i can also say people can go in groups lootrunning in different worlds and get mythics, that argument makes little sense.

 

As I understand you shouldn't go for a 100% mythic chance on the forgery chest, a 40% chance of getting a mythic from it would still be very powerfull to grind mythics in my opinion. Also I havent seen yet if there are restrictions to the mythics it drops (weapons only? boots only?) or if there are any so it might play a role

 

Based on the scenario I said in the first post, the probability of one of the four players getting a mythic is just under 4%, which is a lot higher then the 1% chance. Given how fast and consistantly 4 people can run 7 dungeons, it would take about 26 runs to expect a mythic (64% chance, EV is 1), which is might end up being much, much faster then lootrunning.

1 - (1 - 0.01)^4 = 0.03940399 = 3.94% of at least one mythic dropping for any given run.

 

sigh
You are complaining about a 26 dungeon run mythic when theres FOUR Players running it. Lets say that it takes 30 mins to run all 7 dungeons, assuming the forgery chests doesnt bug out, no one dies, boss doesnt bug out, etc. Thats 13 hours of grinding for ONE player out of four to get a mythic.
How long does it take for a lootrunner to get a mythic? Definitely not an average of 52 hours per mythic.
Combining the results of four players doing dungeons and comparing it to one lootrunner makes no sense.

 

Also you either have to use keys or dbombs

 

doesnt key now take 4 people per use?

 

yeah, but you'll still have to grind like 5-6 of every dungeon guardians

 

you can always just buy the keys, estimating every key would be 16 eb, thats still under 2 le that can be shared between 4 players

 

that makes 10.5le for 6 of every dungeon runs, but; 1. Watch as key prices start to go up, 2. as Sayori said above

 

mhm, for a party of four, thats 182 keys per mythic... 3 Stacks of LE at current market prices... very "op"
Oh you wanna go solo? it just costs 728 keys no biggie, just 11.375 stacks
Edit : A friendly reminder that keys are not 16 eb, but 1LE. I do not know where you pulled that price from.

 

I mean, finding corrupted key is not that hard, especially since its a gavel focused update lotta people will ofc play there, thus finding more of the corrupted keys in gavel