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Guide Powder Specials Are Additive

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  1. RenZenthio

    RenZenthio Murder the gods and topple their thrones! HERO

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    I know I literally just made a guide, just wanted to make this one too

    Real quick:
    Courage and Curse powder specials are additive, basically adding 150% or 210% spell and melee damage (they also affect poison), respectively, to your stats
    You can see what your damage would be in wynndata by manually changing the spell and melee% of your build
    These things:
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    (Also, Courage's initial hit acts like a fire damage ID boosted melee hit that does not affect raw, thanks @Druser)
     
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    •WhiteWolf• Traumatised. HERO

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    courage + endurance = +475% dmg then right?
     
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    RenZenthio Murder the gods and topple their thrones! HERO

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    Courage: +150% damage
    Endurance: up to 200% fire damage

    Max % increase on a pure fire weapon: 350%

    EDIT:
    I see the confusion, no, the initial hit damage 125% fire does not continue boosting your damage, it’s a one-off as soon as you cast, and it goes off of your melee damage.
    So theoretically, if talking about a single fire melee hit, yes, though I don’t know if courage spell% boost occurs at the same time as the initial hit
     
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    •WhiteWolf• Traumatised. HERO

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    but there's the +125% base dmg too right?
     
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    1+1=3 LegoBoyWelly HERO

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    wait
    isn't endurance +200% fire damage, and not spell damage?
     
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    Assuming a pure fire weapon
     
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    RenZenthio Murder the gods and topple their thrones! HERO

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    No, that’s only for the initial hit, and it goes off your melee damage (like quake, but only affecting fire damage%)
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    Yes, but sd% and elemental% damage function the same on a pure mono-elemental weapon
     
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    1+1=3 LegoBoyWelly HERO

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    yes, but make sure to differentiate that for other rainbow weapons and fire/other ele
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    I got confused lol
     
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    •WhiteWolf• Traumatised. HERO

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    That's kinda misleading then. And the 125% only affects melee?
     
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    RenZenthio Murder the gods and topple their thrones! HERO

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    No, when you activate courage fire particles shoot out. Things hit by these particles will take your melee damage boosted by +125% fire damage. This boost does not continue past the initial particle effect.
     
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    i thought courage was (your damage)x2.5, or do both of those come to the same thing
     
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    RenZenthio Murder the gods and topple their thrones! HERO

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    That’s actually the thing this thread is clearing up
    Courage is not a flat damage multiplier, it simply gives you 150% more spell/melee damage, meaning it doesn’t affect raw, among other things (same with curse)
    (This also means that if you added curse or courage to something like The Nothing, you’d barely notice a damage increase)
     
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    ron111701 proffa CHAMPION

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    damn rip my build ideas lol
     
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    Vanish totem and warscream are multiplicative though, right?

    Also what about wind prison? Is it actually +600% air damage?
     
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    Anything that gives you a strength effect is multiplicative, so yes

    Idk about wind prison, but I know for sure it doesn’t affect raw, so it’s prolly additive as well
     
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    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    wind prison is +600% air damage, that's been established for a while
     
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  18. RenZenthio

    RenZenthio Murder the gods and topple their thrones! HERO

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    I'll bump this too I guess, why not
     
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    you're additive
     
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    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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