What Is Your Opinion On 1.9+ Pvp?

Probably the most controversial minecraft update of all time. 1.9, the combat update, revamped PvP and PvE mechanics. The most hated thing was the changed to swords. A sweep attack was added that did the same damahe as the standard blow. The sweep attack had to be charged. Meanwhile, the classic spam click had had a major attack damage nerf, and it became more effective to time the blows and hit every second or so. Plus, swords could no longer block attacks, and now the only way to block attacks was with a shield. Everybody hated this update because of its changes. Personally, I prefer the 1.9 combat, but I don't think it's perfect.

Some changes I think could be made are:
Increase the damage spam clicking does
Make the sweep attack do a tiny bit more damage and make it slow the enemy or something
Make swords able to block again, but they do not block 100% of the time and cannot block arrows. Only way to avoid this is to use a shield
Hide shield option so you can see better
Use the new fletching table able to make some special arrows (bomb arrows, smoke arrows, etc)
Make the crossbow firework shooting competitively viable somehow instead of just a fun way to shoot fireworks
Bleeding? (10% chance when a critical hit is landed)
Make channeling on tridents have a 100% chance to land a lightning attack during thunder, 30% in rain, and 10% in normal weather

If you could make any changes, what could they be? And what do you think of these changes?

 

I would like to see a pvp meta where spam clicking and charging up a devastating blow were used in conjunction. the current minecraft pvp is a bit stale.
also, leaving bleeding up to chance might be a bit annoying

 

I would say Mojang did very bad job with 1.9 and they're doing a bigger mistake by not changing it back.

 

I like the idea of the new combat ("new") as it gives a bit more depth to combat, but since I mainly play Vanilla for building, I honestly don't appreciate it ingame that much. All it does is makes mobs a bit more annoying, and frankly I'd rather just minimize dealing with them altogether. In regards to pvp, I like that spam clicking is no longer as effective, but honestly I don't play enough to know or care.

 

I like how it adds more variety and customizability. For example, the shield was added in replace of blocking with your sword, but axes can easily counteract a shield, meaning that they're good to have during a PvP fight. I also like how fighting mobs feels more tactile because you have to pause between attacks. Like, you have to get the timing right, and it feels like you actually get better at timing the more you play.

I think the execution of all these changes could be better, though, and I do like your suggestions. Especially the fletching table, I think that would be something that would fit well into the game.

 

1.9 was great for survival and pve, I would say that it was the best update since beta 1.8/1.0

for pvp and such, I still think that the more fast-paced combat of 1.8 is better

 

years of skyblock and the walls as a kid made me appreciate spam clicking, so i can't fully embrace 1.9 combat

 

1.8 will always be superior

 

Facts

 

They ARE updating combat again soon, but it is still flawed.

You will be able to spam click with swords again but only if it has a special enchantment
Axes are being buffed instead of nerfed (new enchantment called cleaving)
Bow fatigue after a while of charging a shot (Makes arrows harder to land)
Consumable items cannot be used in combat effectively (they get paused when you are hit)
And a few more things I forgot

I would prefer if we got 1.8 combat back.

 

Agree, 1.8 was the best

 

I really dislike 1.8 pvp. 1.8 pvp is just spam left click, right click, press w,a,d key and boom suddenly ur a master at pvp.
1.9+ pvp adds so much more variety, axe combat, tridents, crossbows, shield, critical hits, and you actually have to time your hits properly to deal damage.
In pve sense, you can set your autoclicker to 50 and mobs will never reach you. But in 1.9+, you actually have to time your hits

 

Cps doesn't even matter that much, I click 6 cps and I'm still decent. It's the sprint resetting that matters.

 

not to mention that “spamclicking” isn’t something anyone can do, you actually got to practice a bit to get decent cps. And in 1.8 there’s still a lot of skill. W-tapping, rods, blockhitting, knowing when to crit. You could just argue 1.9 is just axe crit, axe crit, axe crit and you win

 

Facts

 

skyblock wars (or whatever it was called) just isn’t the same with 1.9 combat sigh

 

The issue with 1.8 is that it is too straightforward, there are swords and that's it pretty much, perhaps rods but there really is way too little playstyle variety
The issue with 1.9 is that it is 100% based on items, there is almost no player skill really

The best thing would be to find a middle ground, 1.8's technical complexity mixed with 1.9's tool variety
This would require a lot of item balancing but it would make 1.9 PvP work
1.8 PvP is superior because it actually requires you to get good
1.9 PvP could be superior but it has way too severe balancing issues for it to be better, if all weapons were actually balanced, it would definitely be better than 1.8
Also not having an option to hold the attack button is dumb
I definitely prefer 1.8 PvP
I prefer 1.9 PvE in all ways though