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Governments Of Wynncraft: A Speculative Theory

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  1. Pixelæs

    Pixelæs just a mathematician

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    This is perhaps one of the least-discussed topics in Wynncraft, and with good reason. There's basically no evidence besides AHC and a few NPCs. But today, I will try to answer them, at least to satisfy myself. This took at least 3 hours, and a lot of Wynncraft Wiki pages, so do enjoy!

    Warning: Does have a lot of spoilers


    So, we do know that there is a King in Ragni and a King in Troms, so the two great fortresses are still kingdoms. Meanwhile, the city of Almuj seems more progressive, having a mayor. But for the rest of the cities and towns, there is basically no known government, but there has to be one, otherwise, the place would be complete anarchy, with burning houses and riots in the street.


    Since Detlas is basically dependent on trade, and we can't find anything resembling a palace, it is probably not a monarchy, and more likely has a mayor or council. Meanwhile, we have Nemract. In what is now Ancient Nemract, a series of kings might have ruled, and that seems most likely for the time. Now, however, from the way the NPCs talk, there doesn't seem to be a king at all. Therefore, it might be a democracy, or perhaps a stratocracy, where the military government. I can see the survivors of Ancient Nemract, deciding to create a military state for protection.


    Now, on to Bremminglar, which is a tribe, so there is most likely a chief. Next, we have Ternaves, a horse town, which seems to be closest to Detlas, and isn't big enough to have its own government, so it's probably governed by Detlas. Katoa Ranch and the Hidden Village are both probably governed by Ragni, it is stated in Kingdom of Sand that Rymek has a mayor, and Lusuco is probably governed by Nesaak, which leads on to our next topic, Nesaak.


    Formerly controlled in a dictator-like way by Theorick Twain, when he froze all of Nesaak, the townsfolk probably decided to create a system which governed just enough to keep Nesaak going. Most probably a democracy, where every citizen has a vote, and they directly vote on proposed laws. The House of Twain is most likely not claimed by any state or kingdom in all of Wynn, with malevolent spirits lingering there.


    With all that out of the way, we have Selchar, heart of the ocean. Since it’s also basically dependent on trade, and there’s no palace, it might be either a republic or democracy, and yes, they are different. Democracies involve the people directly voting on laws; republics have the people vote on representatives who then vote on laws.


    Next, we have Gavel, which seems to be a kingdom, but without the king. Theoretically, Cinfras would be the most likely capital, but the only building that qualifies for a kingdom that can afford to build an entire city out of quartz would be the Guild Hall. Maybe the Guild Master is the king? Anyway, we can probably say that the (theoretical) Kingdom of Gavel would include Cinfras, the Forgery, Llevigar, Olux, Gelibord, and Thesead, and everything in between.


    However, in the quest The Qira Hive, Yansur says “governments of Gavel,” so there must be at least two. The Gerts and Orcs probably both consist of chiefdoms, but they don’t like villagers, and probably won’t help them against Qira. The dwarves might help, but it’s not completely certain, and only Thanos is close enough to care. The Doguns don’t have enough soldiers to even create a militia, and probably aren’t really interested in getting rid of Qira, since she’s located far away from Molten Heights. So that leads us to the conclusion that there are at least two governments in Gavel, and Ahmsord just-so-perfectly has several buildings that look somewhat like palaces or mayoral houses, for lack of a better term.


    Let us review the cities of Gavel to see which one’s most likely to head another nation: Llevigar is grand, but doesn’t seem to have anything remotely like a palace, except the Bank. Olux is possible, but the location is pretty bad. Gelibord is just too small, Aldorei is probably independent but is isolationist, Cinfras is taken, Thesead is a possibility and does have its own mayor, but it’s location leaves much to be desired, Eltom basically governs itself but has to stay hidden, Kandon-Beda is too small, which leads us to Ahmsord: has the infrastructure, the location, and is different enough from Gavel to warrant its own nation. Most likely a republic, it would include the Sky Islands, Kandon-Beda, and most likely Jofash Docks, which means the Void Islands govern themselves. It seems that the only major village in the Void is the Void Village, so it is probably the capital.

    Now, onto the other countries in Gavel. The Dwarves probably have a kingdom, evidenced by the King that appears in Dwarves and Doguns. The Doguns have a chief-based system, based in the same source. The Elves are most likely governed by the Sol Embassy, and the Orcs seem to have a chiefdom system, with several chiefdoms across the Llevigar Plains.


    Next, we have Corkus. With Corkus Delegates in an Envoy Part I and II, there must be someone to delegate them, so there must be a government. In A Hunter's Calling, Maxie mentions that he is part of the City Council, and Corkus City is the only major city on Corkus, so Corkus is most likely governed by it. The Avos have a chief, appearing in The Envoy I and II and AHC, so they probably choose a chief who governs their nation.


    Next, we have Fruma. Mentions of an all-powerful monarchy are made in Recover the Past, the Llevigar Secret Room, and the Relos Library, and this is universally accepted by the Wynncraft community. That was pretty easy.


    Now, to Realms of Influence. Death's Realm is probably the easiest, since the governed is literally in the name, which is Death. Next we have the Realm of Light, with Orphion technically governing it but the Heliolux do have a leader, Helioron. Most likely, Helioron governs the Heliolux, taking advice from Orphion, and Orphion governs the rest of the Light.


    We end with the Silent Expanse and Dern, the lands of Darkness. The Silent Expanse doesn’t seem to have any government whatsoever, and the people in Happier Lutho probably have a democracy, since it’s “happier.” Meanwhile, in Silent Expanse’s Secret, the beast, which probably governs the Dark, tells Bak’al to place his eye on the top of the highest tower, now the Eldritch Lookout, to force his will on the beings of the Overworld (current name for the main Realm which includes Wynn, Gavel, etc.), and by crushing the beings of the SE in one way or another, the Eye, and by extension the beast, rule over the SE.


    I know that this is mostly speculation and probabilities, with a bit of psychology thrown in, and it is not solid. But still, it does try to resolve a mystery in Wynncraft, although it is a less thought-about one.

    My gratitude goes to the WynnTheory Discord for their help and support, and to RandomJukebox, Samsam101, I_Liek_Turtlez, and Emolga3 for sharing possible improvements!
     
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  2. Yraw

    Yraw Water Fountain

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    inb4 political argument
     
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  3. Pixelæs

    Pixelæs just a mathematician

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    Yup. They will probably happen, but I'm hoping they won't. And for potential flamers, I do not support any political movement, and I certainly do not support any extremists.
     
  4. RandomJukebox

    RandomJukebox gamer with extra cheese VIP

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    doesn't kingdom of sand mention a mayor of rymek?
     
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  5. Pixelæs

    Pixelæs just a mathematician

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    I forgot about that. Thanks for the correction, though!
     
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  6. fishcute

    fishcute fish CHAMPION Builder

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    Theres supposed to be some form of royalty of gavel, but they seem to have gone underground, spreading their influence using wynn excavation, and they take orders from/worship the eye

    orphion is also corrupted/decayed, and is unlikely to be giving advice to the heliolux. but if everything was fine, orphion would be the ruler of the realm of light.

    The dern beast as many people call it, isn't very well understood. We know it is the source of they eye, and wants to take over wynn. It commands bak'al, and the eye (and by proxy the royalty of gavel and wynn ex). It also has a name thats fairly long, maybe 8-10 characters, as shown in a leaked dialogue of bak'al ordering mcdonalds for lunch for both of them.
     
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  7. penguinbnuuy

    penguinbnuuy penguinbnuuy HERO

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    The Seaskipper Capitain calls Llevigar the royal city of Gavel. Also, Thesead has a mayor, but Thesead is probably ruled by the government in Llevigar.
    The guy who wants to rat Eltom out (I forgot his name) tries to talk to the mayor of Thesead to get the information to the villager government.
     
  8. ditsario

    ditsario it's always christmas somewhere in the world VIP+

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    Nesaak (probably) has a mayor.

    In the Nesaak scenario (where you kill Theorick), Theorick says "As the mayor said" when talking about Kotham. This was, of course, over 400 years ago, but I can't see why they would change their system without any external threat.

    Also, what about Mage Island and the jungle villages? They must have some system, right?
     
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  9. Pixelæs

    Pixelæs just a mathematician

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    I'm going to add Mage Island and the Jungle in a future thread maybe, since I'm planning to explore the Dernel Jungle thoroughly at Level 75 or so, so I'm going to hold off on it for the best possible thread.
     
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  10. Justice

    Justice Obliterator of Grooks VIP+

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    Honestly, couldn't Wynn have the possibility of being a feudal society like that of the HRE (though that's an extreme case)? There are multiple monarchies and governors and it seems centralized enough to deploy troops to defend against the corruption but not enough to be governed by one central authority.
     
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    Triactic Below average IQ VIP+

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    Maybe Detlas and all of Gavel (at least the villager kingdoms) are run by the banks.
     
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  12. Emogla3

    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    The Dwarves are certainly a goverment, they have a king. I also believe that they’re communist (not entirely sure).
     
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    Gort His Royal Pimpness CHAMPION

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    My question is how did a villager, a foreigner, become king of Ragni.
     
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    RamonaFlowers Legendary Adventurer CHAMPION

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    I don't think this is that complicated.

    Wynn is ruled simultaneously by what appears to be the King of Ragni and King of Troms.
    Detlas is the neutral provincial trade hub, Nemract and Nesaak are towns, Almuj's a desert city, and Ragni and Troms are fortresses tasked to defend the entire province in the event of an attack. One city =/= one kingdom. Mayor =/= King. Kingdoms have multiple cities and towns within their jurisdiction, but think of Wynn as a kingdom ruled by two rulers.

    Gavel is more progressive than Wynn. Cinfras is the seat of the ruling government, and their most advanced city is Llevigar. It is similar to Ottawa-Toronto, Washington-New York, Canberra-Sydney/Melbourne etc.
    The ruling government has power over most regions in Gavel except for Eltom, which is governed by humans, Molten Heights, which is governed by the dwarves, and Aldorei, which is governed by the elves. These guys do not interfere with the Cinfras government. It is akin to having indigenous tribes living in some countries today.

    The seat of power in Corkus is in Corkus city. Like Cinfras, the leaders are responsible for all of Corkus except the Avos' territories. Likewise, indigenous tribes living in a country and follows their own way of life.

    Fruma, from what we've seen so far, is an absolute monarchy.
     
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    MagmaMelon Theorist and Geek

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    Pixelæs just a mathematician

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    It's quite a good theory, and does have a bit of support from WynnEx B and D, since the fire crystal is in lava but the king burns it in lava. And RamonaFlowers, yes, it could probably be simpler, but I was trying for something that made some sense in real-life politics. Justice, I'd say that I think of this war is a combination of militias and official armies, and there probably would be some "war council" somewhere, most likely in Ragni or Detlas, and I'm basing this on real-life stuff, not idealism, and no politically-savvy ruler would give up that much control over their military.
     
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    Samsam101 Star Walker GM

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    uhhhhhhh maxie is a guy
     
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  18. I_Liek_Turtlez

    I_Liek_Turtlez hi i play hic CHAMPION

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    I didn’t see any mention of the fact that Rodoroc has a king?
     
  19. Pixelæs

    Pixelæs just a mathematician

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    Sorry, I couldn't tell from the skin. It's a bit tricky when all you have to work with is the wiki and wynndata.

    Try A Hunter's Calling. The Royal Advisor says the king wanted to blow up the slums.
     
  20. Emogla3

    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    And the entire DnD questline has him as a major character
     
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