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Discussion: Best Pve Class

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Slime1480, Aug 17, 2020.

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Which class is best for pve

  1. Assassin

    17 vote(s)
    15.5%
  2. Mage

    18 vote(s)
    16.4%
  3. Shaman

    52 vote(s)
    47.3%
  4. Warrior

    6 vote(s)
    5.5%
  5. Archer

    17 vote(s)
    15.5%
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  1. Emogla3

    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    but Archer doesn't require you to "be good", while assassin has the highest skill roof

    also Archer has a much more constant speed buff of 3 minutes versus assassin's 5 second buff costing a total of 6 mana
     
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  2. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Speed for 5 seconds and your mana is drained.
    Archers fall slowly, so you get additional time and also have the "suprise strike" that blinds enemies.
     
  3. ghoti0315

    ghoti0315 buff assassin CHAMPION

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    uhh then maybe this is my problem... I can solo EO with assassin when i got one shot by corkus accipentis with archer using similar spell builds
     
  4. Emogla3

    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    would you mind sending the builds? if for example I make a build for Mage, and then slap the nearly same gear on Warrior, it rarely actually ends up being a good build for the warrior
     
  5. ghoti0315

    ghoti0315 buff assassin CHAMPION

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    sorry I did that like several months ago so i forgot, but maybe it is just me being suck at playing archer
    but it is somewhere near this one https://wynndata.tk/s/0ptej8 (sitis -> gale's force + ttide)
     
  6. Arkade

    Arkade Who am I? CHAMPION

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    Easily Assassin just because of heavy melee. People understimate heavy melee assassin and when they discover the power that is vanish heavy melee they are straight up shook.
     
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    Badraan hi reader VIP

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    Not enough people are giving archer its credit here, It's the highest Damage if you have the right builds, I have a build with 11 mr, 20k arrow storm (Night hawk), And 1 mana cost arrow storm, costing me 15 mana per 200k damage, Essentially making me able to do 150 - 200k damage in under 4 seconds, And I can do that infinite amount of times, And we all know Archer has the best vertical and horizontal mobility.
     
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  8. Emogla3

    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    the build itself just... isn't great

    the damage is good, the costs are decent, but the sustain is very little, with you even having negative hp regen.

    switching to torrential tide actually makes it look a lot better in my opinion. There is no more negative hpr, but the costs still aren't too awesome combined with the mana regen. If you can do EO with Sitis as the weapon, I see no reason why you couldn't do with ttide. Maybe archer just isn't your type of playstyle?
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    the best vertical mobility would actually go to assassin, as it can re-cast vanish midair, and I would say Mage is a good contender for best horizontal mobility
     
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  9. Slime1480

    Slime1480 Slime Shady Staff Member Moderator CHAMPION

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    I can confirme since I have a heavy melee assassin build and bosses go brrr.
    For what I've read, I understood that the best classes are (not in any specific order): shaman for melee bosses and crowds, archer for bosses and same thing goes for assassin.
    As an assassin, I can confirme that I'm able to solo everything, so when I'll be back from holidays, I'll test what can I do with mage and archer with their best possible builds (I chose those classes since I have them as lvl 100+)
     
  10. RenZenthio

    RenZenthio Murder the gods and topple their thrones! HERO

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    I personally wouldn't use tidebinder unless you're going all out concentration. The Forsaken has good damage, but trades mr. And Warrior has the uppercancel combo of uppercutting something and immediately cancelling it with bash. A skilled player will be able to keep uppercancels going nearly constantly for high damage.
    Granted, I don't think this compares to Assassin's damage due to vanish, and just...Assassin.

    Ok this one's debatable. It's true that Warrior has higher base damage reduction (36%), and assassin can turn off aggression with spins, but Mage can heal, and has a ranged melee that can penetrate targets. And Archer can stay back while meleeing (of course, I don't know how viable melee archer is so you may be right)

    Thus, alas, even though I am a warrior simp, I must acknowledge that it is not superior to other classes even in what you think it should be the best at (though the passive damage reduction is nice, and weapons like Skien's madness and Praesidium are awesome for this).
     
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  11. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    This is an impossible question because classes are better for different things. Seriously, why do people make these threads so often? It's the same answer every time. Would be great if they started getting removed as spam...

    • Archer breaks the game through range and absurd damage allowing you to play a completely different game. Personally I think it kinda "ruins" the game by doing so as well.
    • Warrior doesn't break the game and that's why it's considered the "worst". It's hard to be normal in the world of Wynn.
    • Mage breaks the game with heal being a thing, even after all the nerfs.
    • Assassin breaks the game with the objectively strongest spell, Vanish. And vanish alone is such a massive advantage.
    • Shaman breaks the game with sheer crowd control and sustain. It has no right being as bulky as it is.
     
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  12. ghoti0315

    ghoti0315 buff assassin CHAMPION

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    Mage weapons has lower damage in general without mythics (look at heatwave, compiler, final compulsion). And, a heal costs you 8 mana without intelligence, so I won't say I will rely much on heal for melee builds. The penetration is quite useful for crowds but not for bosses.
    Archer melee is viable but you have to become a sniper, or your DPS will be even lower than spell tank archers. Yeah and don't be y33ted by ranged enemies.
    Assassins use vanish to turn off aggression and gets damage bonus for a hit, which also increases DPS by 80%.
     
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  13. GreenTheMeme

    GreenTheMeme Doing damage pleases me sexually

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    You gotta admit some classes are better than others in the campaign. Some people just want to have an easy first-time experience, and then playing the game with the rest of the classes.
     
  14. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    Again, depends on the person's playstyle. When I'm talking to someone who wants to know the "best" class, I point out their strengths so they can choose what's best for them.

    Archer is really hard to recommend because it really does ruin the game.
    Assassin is a great recommendation- highest skill ceiling, but low skill floor.

    etc.
    (And the "campaign" isn't even close to challenging anyway)
     
  15. Arkade

    Arkade Who am I? CHAMPION

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    Pretty sure cata builds have much higher dmg + it is a matter of time until nighthawk gets nerfed into its place.
     
  16. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    how is it getting nerfed?
     
  17. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    sounds like a bad gales build, that arrow storm damage is concerningly low.
     
  18. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    I feel like it’s a pretty good sign for the game that no one can really agree on the best class right now; it means they’re all close enough that it largely comes down to personal opinion

    that said, it’s still probably shaman; built-in sustain and having the best crowd control utility in terms of AoE while not sacrificing single target DPS too much, as well as a projectile shield and multiple weapons that play really well to its strengths (toxoplasmosis, spleen splitter) or have built in spell costs IDs (Cryoseism, Hardcore, Silent Ballet). Its only real weakness is that its melee doesn’t really lend itself well to mana and life steal, but those aren’t really necessary.
     
  19. NamesAreHard

    NamesAreHard Mage Enthusiast (She/He/They) CHAMPION

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    I did a shaman 1-99 playthrough practically half asleep, I stopped because I didn't find the class very fun and had nothing in mind for a build. Discounting the 403 deaths from when I afked in geliboard, and also the 2 times I used /kill to travel, I died twice.
     
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  20. GreenTheMeme

    GreenTheMeme Doing damage pleases me sexually

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    The question was who is the best PVE class, and it's very straightforward. It's shaman, though there are people who'd argue it's someone else because they like a class better. However, people usually people ask this question because they're to know the hard facts. Objectively speaking here, we're talking about a class that can shut down more than 60% of the enemy types in the game at level 21 accompanied by the 3rd highest DPS in the game AND being one of the only TWO classes that can heal itself with their spells. If people want to play wynncraft while watching Youtube 90% of the time, then so be it. They have the right to know how they can fulfill their desires. If not, then they'll know who to avoid.
     
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