Info Item Team Thread - Item/ingredient/major Id Changes, Updates & More

Really excited about these new changes. Looks great!

 

another nerf im disappointed wasnt harsher

 

the sine nerf will hurt only cata and literally nothing else

 

it's at least going to overshadow stillwater, trading 1mr for superior hp and 35%esd. whether that's a valid instance to raise is debatable though ig.

 

Wow IMs, I can't believe the Avalanche tradability. Shame on you, you ruined every build in Wynncraft. I was so exited to finally use Avalanche in hunted, now I am but a shadow of myself. As a child I looked at all the items, and none of them spoke to me. AVALANCHE spoke to me, it SPOKE to me IMs, and now you ruined that. I will never forget this absolute MANSLAUGHTER of Avalanche that has happened on this day.

 

quick summary of the new running logs:
-scorpio has 100 strength skill points
-breakdown is cool
-ims cower in fear of ambivalence fantasia.

 

Why nerf rainbow sanc when all the rainbow weapons requirements are lowered? Now if you want to use morph stardust, you would waste 5 sp that you could've put on other stats. Yes, there is the Vaward buff but, is still not good enough to use it over rainbow sanc. This could be fixed by creating a rainbow legging that reduce spell cost in exchange for damage, but until then, rainbow sanc is a must pick in a rainbow build.

 

Quoting @Xavi:

"So Freedom isn't free."

It's a good reason tbh, the real complaint is a change when rainbow is due for a big rework anyway

 

HERE is a version of the running log only with the new changes from today but in a google doc instead! use it if you prefer, and comment on anything you like!

 

What? You're trading 1 mr for 11% damage and 4 jump height, and Stratosphere is TW while Stillwater is W so the latter has a lot more variety of usage.

 

Aight, very long lightning round of impressions

Neat

I’m not really sure Sizzling Shawl needed a buff but still neat

This feels like a nerf of an already weakish item

ETW support, always nice

I’m mean I’m not into it but I won’t kinkshame

Nice

More ETW support

A huge boon for The Exploited and Old Keeper’s Ring

Heavy poison, love to see it, might still be worse than Necrosis unfortunately

That’s a lot of damage

Mobility option for ETW, though it will be competing with Cardiact Arrest in that slot. Also mobility for ETA I guess

Brainwash finally has some friends. Oh god.

I mean
It’s decent? I’m not really sure how good it’s gonna end up being

Goddamnit stop making items good after I toss them

This is an... interesting change, especially given just how insanely tanky Leo’ll be with that health buff. I think it might be a bit too good with a good roll though,

I... still doubt Renda will get that much use tbh, though it may see use as a utility item for melee builds (The Exploited comes to mind). Draoi nerf hurts but it’ll still be insanely good on archer and assassin

Good changes, though that attack speed hurts

Holy FUCK this is gonna break poison builds. Like this item singlehandedly lets you get max strength while running something like Necrosis, or the buffed Alkahest while pumping points into defense and agility.

Cool

Harsh but well deserved

I still think Ambi’s gonna be in a rough spot when it actually releases

Nice survivability buff, and synergy with Old Keepers Ring

And all the cancelstack users silently weeped

Neat

 

Eh may I asy why is FAST pointed out given zero already being a fast bow?

 

I was wondering that too

 

Because these changes are ripped from our personal rebalance channel, and we just forgot to take off the attack speed when we were compiling the list of changes and stripping everything away.

 

Are the running logs going to be consolidated at some point? (ex. Renda Langit currently appears twice in the log and its kinda (very) confusing)

 

Dragon Horned Helmet https://wynndata.tk/ci/700723347
Pilot Light https://wynndata.tk/ci/420269441
Eradian Full Helm https://wynndata.tk/ci/629332220
Dragon Hide Plate https://wynndata.tk/ci/992455664
Smoldering Apron https://wynndata.tk/ci/770119551
White-Hot Leggings https://wynndata.tk/ci/939090435
Ardiente https://wynndata.tk/ci/812737982
Sano's Care https://wynndata.tk/ci/696097587
The Stokers https://wynndata.tk/ci/505335485
Sizzling Shawl https://wynndata.tk/ci/846103452
Albacore https://wynndata.tk/ci/477227151
Cranial Panel https://wynndata.tk/ci/690358481
Sunshower https://wynndata.tk/ci/686673573
Ophiuchus https://wynndata.tk/ci/949581562
Shell of Genbu https://wynndata.tk/ci/290605504
Steamstone https://wynndata.tk/ci/225564581
Curador Boots https://wynndata.tk/ci/122939064
Scaldsteppers https://wynndata.tk/ci/621968222
Centennial https://wynndata.tk/ci/206892047
Frenzied Mockery https://wynndata.tk/ci/803707645
Flummox https://wynndata.tk/ci/657945064
Ex Nihilo https://wynndata.tk/ci/928415589
Sparkling Plate https://wynndata.tk/ci/356289302


working in reverse:

Ration https://wynndata.tk/ci/138266204
Surefooter https://wynndata.tk/ci/547787654
Mycelium Plating https://wynndata.tk/ci/330173946
Terra's Mold https://wynndata.tk/ci/183063053
Brocach https://wynndata.tk/ci/360710201
Nighthawk https://wynndata.tk/ci/813829635
Lion's Pelt https://wynndata.tk/ci/823466172
Anamnesis https://wynndata.tk/ci/214042146
Bloodlust https://wynndata.tk/ci/683988261
Electro Mage's Boots https://wynndata.tk/ci/561207003
Leo https://wynndata.tk/ci/701427363
Renda Langit
Draoi Fair https://wynndata.tk/ci/191425333
Fishscale https://wynndata.tk/ci/156388116
Rainbow Sanctuary https://wynndata.tk/ci/338368798
Insulated Plate Mail https://wynndata.tk/ci/863635823
Boreal-Patterned Crown https://wynndata.tk/ci/931160974
Scorpio https://wynndata.tk/ci/751154077
Kindled Orchid https://wynndata.tk/ci/657144472
Tisaun's Valor
Smack Jacket https://wynndata.tk/ci/300602259
Calidade Mail
Soarfae https://wynndata.tk/ci/206927792
Nether's Scar
Pride of the Aerie https://wynndata.tk/ci/238351769
Virgo https://wynndata.tk/ci/667689480
Nephilim https://wynndata.tk/ci/994298189
Static-Charged Leggings https://wynndata.tk/ci/574267993
Leictreach Makani https://wynndata.tk/ci/132362064
Accelerator https://wynndata.tk/ci/931485003
Toy Maker https://wynndata.tk/ci/124372482
Physalis https://wynndata.tk/ci/566850106
Humbark Moccasins https://wynndata.tk/ci/909852734
Burnout https://wynndata.tk/ci/528942522
Battleground Dancer https://wynndata.tk/ci/308614479
Seismosoul https://wynndata.tk/ci/308980762
Ambivalence https://wynndata.tk/ci/582672002
Leviathan https://wynndata.tk/ci/971247600
Tophet https://wynndata.tk/ci/532423330
Centipede https://wynndata.tk/ci/374056572
Necrosis https://wynndata.tk/ci/275719473
Quartzite Helm https://wynndata.tk/ci/732432693
Mining Fever https://wynndata.tk/ci/833877341

 

Okay maybe it's just me but I am starting to feel like -% spell costs without -intel sp are starting to get a bit out of hand...maybe that's just me tho...

 

As long as they're not too strong. Generally speaking, the existing examples look balanced to me.

 

okay I guess I need to nerf every spell cost item there

 

Right, I'm aware this hasn't been done for the other running log items (I might get on that as well), but:

dragon horned helmet: https://wynndata.tk/ci/700723347 now a quite nice raw-based damage pure fire helmet.
pilot light: https://wynndata.tk/ci/420269441 nerfing hpr% to allow for a more balanced raw and % hpr. not the amazing buff it was hoping for, but it's still pilot light.
eradian full helm: https://wynndata.tk/ci/774566709 respectable damages, although it might not matter much considering we tend to prefer extremes nowadays
dragon hide plate: https://wynndata.tk/ci/413146107 THANK YOU for making this an actual, proper pure fire chestplate, with even some cool mana regen to boot. will get beaten by master's gi in a handful of levels, but really nice while it lasts.
smoldering apron: https://wynndata.tk/ci/770119551 blessed change, now it's all about those spell damages baby
white-hot leggings: https://wynndata.tk/ci/939090435 won't reach flummox power level, but looks like an interesting raw-based item for EWF.
ardiente: https://wynndata.tk/ci/812737982 neat bit of poison, and the spell + fire damage is really good.
sano's care: https://wynndata.tk/ci/696097587 like many other changes, just really deserved. it's still really awkward to use due to its gimmick not being very great, so maybe a bit f damage later on is deserved- still a really nice change.
the stokers: https://wynndata.tk/ci/285214332 surprisingly spicy rework. i don't see people using it very quickly, but it should be really good for EFA.
sizzling shawl: https://wynndata.tk/ci/846103452 req change is very deserved, the extra raw spell for the 300 max raw is a nice touch i guess.
albacore: https://wynndata.tk/ci/477227151 now a WF item! quite like the design, it's pretty much a less extreme sizzling shawl, but the mana regen gives it that extra little oomph that i can see this being used occasionally.
cranial panel: https://wynndata.tk/ci/690358481 really nice use of a merchant item for this kind of design. big fan.
sunshower: https://wynndata.tk/ci/686673573 nooo killed a cool numbering gimmick it's a fine change, probably quite good at-level as well
ophiuchus: https://wynndata.tk/ci/949581562 me when spell conversion still exists
shell of genbu: https://wynndata.tk/ci/290605504 not sure why i'm hyped for a shell of genbu buff but here we are
steamstone: https://wynndata.tk/ci/225564581 lol not a good item, it's basically like tophet except this didn't really get any kind of meaningful change, or anything to start off with
curador boots: https://wynndata.tk/ci/122939064 pretty much as far as an item like this could go, looks really nice.
scaldsteppers: https://wynndata.tk/ci/365620679 wow this item looks depressed as fuck
centennial: https://wynndata.tk/ci/206892047 nice little buff, still would never be used at proper endgame but that's fine
frenzied mockery: https://wynndata.tk/ci/803707645 deserved nerf, pretty much.
flummox: https://wynndata.tk/ci/657945064 life steal nerf deserved although i'd like to see it even lower, other changes are small but i get them
ex nihilo: https://wynndata.tk/ci/309432905 like three consecutive nerfs and still being really good just goes to show how amazing ex nihilo was.
sparkling plate: https://wynndata.tk/ci/356289302 it hadn't even occurred to me how good the sustain on this was, nerf definitely deserved.
third eye: https://wynndata.tk/ci/309606998 bless
caesura: https://wynndata.tk/ci/892180045 Holy Moly (would've preferred the focus to lay a little more on spell % rather then elemental, but otherwise a really cool rework)
speaker: https://wynndata.tk/ci/286059383 wow using speaker is actually going to be useful while leveling, ty!!
seagazer: https://wynndata.tk/ci/429183432 this item is kinda wild and i like it, although the damages might be a little high
moonbeam: https://wynndata.tk/ci/230494947 pretty neat.
ornamental plate: https://wynndata.tk/ci/783701744 im cryigm thank you
ley lines: https://wynndata.tk/ci/202744906 low level, probably really good at level, not particularly at endgame, cool though
seipodon: https://wynndata.tk/ci/736150952 really don't think this buff was needed but sure
condensation: https://wynndata.tk/ci/388047888 lol
bubbline: https://wynndata.tk/ci/669340739 it's.. fine, you probably can't load a ton on a level 81 unique boots anyway
ionosphere: https://wynndata.tk/ci/963974714 simple buff, although ionosphere is kind of that third place winner if you get me
facedown: https://wynndata.tk/ci/359707565 hey this is pretty cool
golden scarab: https://wynndata.tk/ci/690187547 worse beetle aegis for TWA, or something. dex req is still painful but it does deliver somewhat now
thermosphere: https://wynndata.tk/ci/623393967 an.. interesting sp w/ damage chestplate.
asphyxia: https://wynndata.tk/ci/832881794 relentless bullying from cinderchain and dark channeler has inspired asphyxia to become actually quite good
fulmine belt: https://wynndata.tk/ci/817083698 barely endgame unique, isn't and probably shouldn't be very good
updraft: https://wynndata.tk/ci/980042630 it's a bit drafty in here, must be the well-designed thunder air item being open again
storm brewer: https://wynndata.tk/ci/306608252 thanks this is a really deserved buff
sine: https://wynndata.tk/ci/879985214 genuinely disappointed this is the nerf we ended up with.
soul signal: https://wynndata.tk/ci/906230500 you know how it goes, just casually catching up with the power creep
deux: https://wynndata.tk/ci/504974086 deux! deux ms deux mr! love the change!
resistance: https://wynndata.tk/ci/646644359 if it weren't for trench scourer, this would be incredible. now it's "just" a really useful item.
myelin: https://wynndata.tk/ci/402522699 coming from the one person who used this here and there, amazing buff. health feels too low, though.
neuron: https://wynndata.tk/ci/969650937 from awkward TW helmet to a fucking force, this is meta right here.
info visor: https://wynndata.tk/ci/107363270 ah yes trapped between third and aquamarine, i do not see this getting used nor does it even really fill a niche
polyphemus: https://wynndata.tk/ci/500340124 not sure it needed a nerf, to be honest. eh.
logistics: https://wynndata.tk/ci/711895401 maybe it does something really interesting at-level with visionary's vice but really- this is not a good item.
umbral mail: https://wynndata.tk/ci/546466481 it's pretty decent, might actually become the third wheel to anima-infused and medeis.
galvanization: https://wynndata.tk/ci/717171280 me when lower level unique and dark channeler exists
enduzskam: https://wynndata.tk/ci/530725026 read above except sine and probably both of the TW boots
green helmet: https://wynndata.tk/ci/594009930 green helmet (green helmet)
gaze of the snowbank: https://wynndata.tk/ci/378072885 i like the direction, but i feel like it could get this buff another time
earthlink: https://wynndata.tk/ci/976030782 is still earthlink but people might use it at level now that it doesn't have an insane req anymore
lichenwal: https://wynndata.tk/ci/261693720 looks quite nice now, especially for the level
crater print: https://wynndata.tk/ci/646758354 two words: ex nihilo.
brackwall: https://wynndata.tk/ci/660809039 neat buff.
the rupturer: https://wynndata.tk/ci/678301814 sp with damage!!
caterpillar: https://wynndata.tk/ci/598861937 really cool heavy poison
heura: https://wynndata.tk/ci/319000117 wtf heura gets an actual use no way
aquamarine: https://wynndata.tk/ci/701753663 yeah, that's fair.
alkahest: https://wynndata.tk/ci/131760962 another awesome heavy poison item.
anti-static: https://wynndata.tk/ci/187357854 so why didn't the thunder defense go up if it's anti-static hmm?
molten flow: https://wynndata.tk/ci/200254110 interesting item, both being defensive
argos: https://wynndata.tk/ci/450193215 looks fucking rad, probably useful as well
conrupt: https://wynndata.tk/ci/416764076 yeah, sure
crown of suzaku: https://wynndata.tk/ci/316536158 i love you so much
bete noire: https://wynndata.tk/ci/693067672 lost a little coolness, but made up for it in being even better.
delirium: https://wynndata.tk/ci/150757585 the fastest man alive
sequencer: https://wynndata.tk/ci/149866588 cool item made even cooler
latency: https://wynndata.tk/ci/419147126 pretty cool change, although the air defense might hurt latency more than it should.
corruption seal: https://wynndata.tk/ci/374824334 pretty much conrupt on your feet
brass leg plates: https://wynndata.tk/ci/388579614 stalactite so stalactite could go and do its own thing
shawl of gaea: https://wynndata.tk/ci/532621540 deserved
grillface: https://wynndata.tk/ci/248455099 deserved

THANK YOU this is the best change ever (baselines v3 coming soon probably)