Community Event The Great Lore Index - Bob Discussion/lorehunt!

Hello everyone! So in case you don't know, the main thread for the first part of the Great Lore Index was made a few days ago. In case you missed it, here's the link: https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/the-great-lore-index-bob-and-his-life.270596/

So what's next? Well, this is where the community is going to be a bit more involved.

1) This thread is going to be used as a discussion thread for the questions raised about the first part of the GLI. For them, see the bottom spoiler.

2) Over the next month you can lorehunt in the Decrepit Sewers dungeon for bits of lore, particularly about Bob. I thought the sewers would be good because Bob was born there and they are an important location in Wynn lore. You can hunt from 24 June - 24 July, and you can do as much or as little as you want. Just make sure to note down anything you find and send me a PM with the things you found. Screenshots are recommended but not mandatory, but co-ordinates are necessary. This is actually better than a discord because there is no chance of me missing any info (I think a lot of people's info got missed out in the original Great Lore Hunt).

Spoiler: Questions to discuss in comments

1) Do the colours of Bob's weapons suggest a relation with Dern?
2) Was Bob's mother the witherhead?
3) Are Bob's masters still around?
4) Does Momo's shack stand?
5) Is Bob an olm?
6) Did Bob try to seal away the Eye, the CoW, or the beast of Dern?
7) Is Bob alive?

Feel free to discuss the above questions. In 1 month, when sewer lorehunting will finish, I will make a thread compiling all the info.

Happy theorising!

 

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After staying in the Secret Library of Ragni (Library for short), I have come to thus:

2) This theory is based on evidence on this picture

Spoiler: Image

In Library chapter II is said: "Though the women accompanying her did all they could, the unknown woman did not survive the childbirth. " The bones near the grave (Which presumably belongs to Bob¨s mother) are the same color as Witherhead's skin. Witherhead is also reffered as "she".
I think the theory is propably true.

5)
Library, chapter II: "During the fight, a woman who never said her name, nor where she had come from (she certainly wasn't one of Ragni's own), gave birth to a baby boy on the cold floors of the sewer. "
This suggests she wasn't "entirely" human. Also it is shown that Bob had pale skin, just like the Olm.

6)
A Hunter's Calling, stage 11: "Bak'al: Since then, he has been sealed in. The magic of the Twains is strong here. He cannot escape."
CoW was sealed by a Twain (I think Marius).

Silent Expanse's Secret: "[6/7] Bak'al: I do not, Master. You cannot possibly intend to leave?"
Sealed Letters: "There is a dark creature of the night in a land "far" away, it poses a threat to all. "
"dark creature" might mean the Dark Beast from Dern. I assume this is true, because the Eye is still watching and powerful. On the other hand we can't acces the Portal to Dern

7)
Maybe, but not in a way the discoveries (except Sealed Letters) are trying to tell us.
Sealed Letters: "I am going to challenge the beast and attempt to seal it away using my own life force, for I know that is all I can do, killing it is not a option."
If he sealed it with his own life force, it might mean that he is dead or in really-near-death state. I guess he put all his power into the seal to assure it works.

There is also the question where did he get the knowledge to do it. maybe he learnt something from Shamanism?

Also, who wrote the books in the Library? There are several "I"

(sorry, I didn't have much time to write this)

 

You've raised some valid points. I'll think over these and give you a full answer later today/tomorrow.

 

2) Yes, I think you are right. It's definitely probable at the very least. Also, in the DS shop, the Witherhead's talisman has lore about how Momo felt so sorry for Bob losing his mother.

5) I think the pale skin is indeed an indicator of this. Thing is, who was bob's father?

6) Yeah, I think it was probably the beast. After all, the Eye is a part of the beast, so it would be futile to just seal the eye.

7) Idk about the first bit - there's not a ton of proof either way. But as for shamanism, I doubt it. Shamanism is regarded as a dark art, and I don't think the masters would've allowed Bob to learn it. Using your life force does seem shamanic though, so who knows?

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As for who wrote the books, I've always wondered if Nilrem was involved. After all, not too many people would've known about the letters.

 

1) Do the colours of Bob's weapons suggest a relation with Dern?
2) Was Bob's mother the witherhead?
3) Are Bob's masters still around?
4) Does Momo's shack stand?
5) Is Bob an olm?
6) Did Bob try to seal away the Eye, the CoW, or the beast of Dern?
7) Is Bob alive?

1) yes
2) probs
3) no
4) ?
5) yes
6) beast
7) no

 

evidence?

 

on what

 

your answers

 

1) bob's weapons are black, also a weapon that was exactly the same as bob's was found in the sacrifice altar in front of the EO
2) u posted the evidence yourself (witherhead's black bones around bob's mom's grave)
3) bob had learned all the arts by the time he was 32, we know he lived till like 120 (the lore around him is contradicting), and his masters were probably all old dudes with no real superhuman capabilities, so its unlikely they're still alive (mael is alive but in spirit form)
5) bob was able to learn magic (something most ordinary humans can't do, especially people who were born within miserable conditions like him), he lived far longer than an ordinary human, was far stronger than an ordinary human, was able to master all 4 arts, his skin color was similar if not identical to an olm's, the lore around bob says that his mother wasn't from ragni and she didn't disclose where she was from
6) bob wanted to seal away a "dark creature of the night" in a "land far away". this can't be the CoW because it's more of a damn SCP than a dark creature of the night, plus the jungle where CoW was sealed was very close to ragni since there was a passage, so it wasnt "far away"
it couldnt've been the eye because it'd be useless to seal a creature that can barely move, and wasn't made to move around, so it's like killing yourself to seal a creature that has no intentions on moving away from where it currently is, also bob would've gone into the silent expanse to seal the eye, NOT dern, which brings me to my next point:
bob MUST have sealed the dernic beast because 1. we never see him in game or in any discoveries or lore (his arms dont count), if he was the commander of the darkness we wouldve seen him at least once, 2. bob went into dern because we found his camp and his sealed letter in gateway island, which contained a portal to dern (yes the gateway realm was dern come on its obvious)
also if you try to counter me by saying that bob fought the CoW and got mortally injured and decided to place his power into his 3 animals, i object. i think that yes, bob probably did lose to the CoW as he was old and past his prime, but (and this is mostly speculation) I think he put his power into his animals THEN went into dern to seal the beast away (with his lifeforce, not with his power) if he fought the CoW
7) see above, bob likely sacrificed himself to seal the dark beast away, also bob wouldn't have put his power into his animals if he was going to survive anyway, also the very fact that bob's reincarnation exists, proves that he's dead (you fight bob in heaven after all)

 

Thank you

lol

 

Cant remember where I read it, maybe an older version of bobs story, but im pretty sure that there was something about Bob's mother having grey skin, in the flashbacks you see in the ruined Olmic city, the people look like they have grey skin, that could be a clue to the origins. I believe that there might also have been something with grey people in the time valley, that one im a bit more unsure about though.

Edit: just realized the skin colour had already been mentioned in the thread.

 

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