Mythic Tier List

wtf gma sprite is so overrated
Also Divzer should be dropped to D (for divzer) because the thunder bow sprite sucks

Nulli sprite is gaming. It's the closest to peak dagger PENCURI!!!

 

Sorry but it actually has to BE the weapon!!!!!
PENCURI+SPECIALIST = FASHION
NULLIFICATION = BRUH

 

haha spears in s tier haha
buff warrior pls

 

collapse: https://wynndata.tk/s/5t64yf 17k melee dps, 17k upper, 11k bash, 390 ls, 6/4 ms, upper B tier
toxo: https://wynndata.tk/s/vnwcim normal poison totem = 20k dps, courage poison totem = 50k dps, solid A tier
nulli: https://wynndata.tk/s/n9ygwj normal /nish spin = 14k per, 69% ws :lenny:, lower A tier

show me a tier stack singu without crafted items, but yes with crafted singu is A+ (not S cuz the amount of scraps required is bonkers)
the perfect loot running build is third eye + discov + loot quality spam + bonder/damage wep

arch: https://wynndata.tk/s/1vtoj6 /nish spin = 8.5k, 10680 hp, 0.237x damage recieved, 151% ws, 5 mr 5 ms
slider: https://wynndata.tk/s/z14mnp /nish spin = 11.1k, 10190 hp, 0.278x damage recieved, 175% ws, 3 mr 9 ms
so? did I disprove your theory?

just in case you still want to disprove me:
arch but with even more damage slider build: https://wynndata.tk/s/oi8w3m /nish spin = 8.7k, 11420 hp, 0.262x damage recieved, 181% ws, 3 mr 5 ms

 

With nighthawk yes, but that's a different story

 

I don't know what am I supposed to look at, 2 different builds like that shouldn't be compared

also how tf do you want me to compare 2 perfect builds, if you can find me perfect items for every gears you put in those build ill sell the worst ArchangeL for 150 stx and force someone to buy it

oh and since the only stats that matters are damage stats, here's my walk speed build making more dmg directly than your build https://wynndata.tk/s/yrk8vw

further more, I thought nobody cared about crits dmg and that all damage should be calculated without crits

lastly, why do you compare 2 builds at the end that are very similar except the rings are different, quite frankly I understand nothing of what you tryna convey here

also y tf do every sLidurRrrr build apparently has no hpr?

 

DISCLAIMER: I DID NOT ORDER THE ITEMS IN TIERS WITH ASCENDING POWER, FOR EXAMPLE GRIMTRAP BEING BELOW THRUNDACRACK BOTH IN A TIER DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING




Reasons for some specific mythics:

Thrundacrack and Idol: These mythics are both amazing and trade off certain aspects that are very fair. Thrundacrack gets amazing DPS, -3rd spell cost, and basically no downside, while Idol has less amazing but still very good DPS, 3 MR, no downside, but gets to build more tankier than Thrundacrack. Also stop saying Idol's charge spam is good, both mythics can spam charge easily and who needs to practically spam charge in PvE? Not only that but I don't like the sound of 10 mana Bash because I spammed Charge a little too much

Hadal: Would put this in B tier but I specifically remember having an insanely good Hadal build that made Hadal deserve A tier

Inferno and Weathered: Inferno is basically tankier Weathered. Inferno generally gets slightly less DPS than Weathered despite having the same base, but Inferno is a lot tankier, has pretty good DPS, while being a good melee option too. Weathered trades Inferno's tankiness for being able to build higher damage, and it's Major ID, which is very useful for saving mana. I refrained from putting Weathered in S tier because the Major ID is glitched at the moment, and, while the Major ID is still very good without being glitched, in my opinion it is sitting on a fine line between A tier and S tier.

Boreal: Basically, become invincible. Very good mythic.

Pure: Very good, but I just don't believe it can match the power of Fatal or Warp. If I were to actually put the items inside their tiers in order, Pure would possibly be the #1 in B tier.

Nullification: Gets a bad reputation for having sub-par damage, but its tankiness is superb, and it basically renders you invincible.

Guardian: Boreal 2 but a spear

Gaia: Very good melee option that has high damage IDs and -4 Ice Snake cost, which is extremely useful against enemies while using a melee build, as it freezes them in place.

Monster: Underrated mythic that gets good damage while having massive survivability.

Revenant: I see a lot of people hating on this mythic, but I've used it in quite a lot of builds and it can be quite useful for in EFA (Kinda depends on weapon) and EWA.

Olympic: I've never seen this mythic do anything substantial, it's just a very average mythic that lets you jump really high, which isn't really useful for anything but melee.

Resurgence: I've honestly never seen this mythic used nor have I ever found a reason to use it myself but I've heard it is useful and I can see it being very useful.

Alka: Pretty average to below average mythic that I honestly only put here because SPELL ALKA SPELL ALKA

Toxoplasmosis: Broken in PvP, just OK in PvE.

Dawnbreak: I probably should've put this in C Tier or something since it does actually have uses but this has become Warchief 2 for loot runners so it must die

Disco: Why did I put this here I remember that I was going to put this in D tier

Moontower: I really just like hating on this mythic, it deserves more D tier because it's really only useful in Warp builds but I hate Moontower with an unending, burning passion

 

Aight here's my list, just because all the other cool people are making them.

I'll admit, I've not played warrior enough to really justify any of these placements; they're all just hearsay and "oh I like scythes hero is cool I guess".
This first tierlist is rating them without the use of crafteds- some mythics definitely benefit more with the introduction of crafteds compared to other mythics (*Cough* Singu/Slayer)

Placement from left to right matters somewhat, (I think freedom is the most powerful mythic in the game at current without crafteds in the picture), but comparing toxo and guardian is really freaking hard so I dunno, take it with a grain of salt.


Here's my list with crafteds:


Now, I probably forgot to move some; lots of mythics in here that I'm not quite sure how they reliably exploit crafteds to become bonkers stronkers, but I think this is somewhat reasonable.

Now, I'm giving a significant bias to TFA mythics (and gma) here, because they can abuse the shit out of Large Lapis. Similarly, the enabler for said abuse, Slayer, becomes even more top-tier, giving players the choice to essentially spec all into damage with little to no mana sustain save for some Blood of Nivla beauty smeared all over their stinky breastplates. -hp items are also buffed a ton by the insane health bonuses crafted items give (which is why I put cata at ol' numero uno; a TFA weapon with insane base damage and the only downside of low hp, all of those downsides are removed and the upsides are multiplied by the all mighty Larzlapiz to become truly insane.) Absolution and Sunstar are also top-tier, mostly because TFA nullifies Shaman's low base defense while letting it abuse tons of insane damage auras.

I put Absolution above Sunstar because of the innate 5/4 mana regen, which goes a long way for making TFA shaman even stronger, but I can see an argument for Sunstar being at the top.

Everything else is just thrown in randomly; a few noteworthy outliers that got buffed/nerfed are Moontower and Crabs, just because of their usefulness in being Skill Point Slap for very strong hyper-minmaxed crafted builds, Pure getting essentially a +12/4 mana regen boost from accessories with the use of 4/4 mana regen eye of the beast accessories (and dragon eye, of course) to allow for even more tendinitis. Gma being the only earth mythic that reasonably benefits from the intless spell archetype pedaled by slayer and large lapis also gets a boost, and most importantly.

HADAL GETS HADAL TIERSTACK WOOT WOOT WATER TIERSTACK TIME CHUG THE 5 TIER JUG AND WHALE ON THOSE GOOBERS WITH A VIABLE MEME BUILD

that is all.
I main monster mage.
fight me.
actually don't my damage output is awful in pvp.
but hey fire 3 wand looks pretty nice am i rite gamers

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More importantly:

LORE TIERLIST (and concepts)


Unlike my other tierlist, I will not explain my choices, only know that if you disagree with me u r a stinky poophol and you shall be cursed with dawnchiefs and warbreaks forever more

funny how even in lore, freedom is still top-tier and disco is near the bottom.

 

ah sith, here we go again: ArchangeL is tankier than inferno

finally somebody who gets it, you forgot to mention that rev is speedy bootser than moon tower
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ArchangeL can easily be a Thunder Fire Air but ok >:(

sure ill fight with my TankAngeL if you want ;)

this is a good tier list finnaly something I can respe-

Moontower above ArchangeL and revenant? absolutely wrong bad falsified scam fraud lies not the truth and yada yada synonyms of disagreeing. ill gladly take the warchief and dawnbruh curse.

 

Bruh if you don't have mana with pure, your build is flawed

Spring is extremely underrated, while Strati is extremely overrated.
Warchief is way more useful than Dawnbreak, and they're worth about even anyway, so I see no justification for that one.
You're overrating alka.
Abso below fatal is a joke.
Divzer above freedom is a joke.
Let's just ignore disco in S, and assume you meant to put it at the bottom.


Anyway serious tier lists are a terrible idea.

 

the thing I'm comparing is useability
if u can deal with having 5/4 total mr and ms, go ahead and use archangel
you constantly say damage is more important, however your build still do less damage than slider while having less mana to clear off mobs
so what is it? do you want damage or useability?
I would prefer useability any day over pure damage

 

pure depends on ms way too much, that is why there's a chance it will not have mana. happened multiple times in my eo solo which costed my run

compare spring and orange lily and see for yourself

I'll admit I don't really understand warrior mythics that much

I assume warp below fatal? it really depends on roll for warp since mana is important for heals (which u already need 1 extra to cast heal) and -hpr makes heals even more important. on pure damage? warp trumps fatal by a long shot, but I experimented with multiple builds and I still can't find a better build than fatal and gave up. maybe you can point me in the right direction of warp builds

reason divzer above freedom is thunder armor passive is extremely busted when fighting swarms of mobs, as opposed to 1/5th of the damage buff u get from freedom per armor passive. both are S tier but I just like divzer more which is why I said freedom is the only exception in A+

I can't put discov at the bottom when I got a mythic in 8 loot runs after getting a suitable build for it, and it's only 163 lb

 

I meant abso when I said abso, how is abso below fatal? :/

Are you serious? Pure is never ever built with ms. Like actually never ever ever. Losing faith by the second :(

personal... a n e c d o t e !!

Yeah but spring has more build variety and has reasonable access to archer's absurdly good defensive option (Also orange lily is much better in theory than in practice)

 

No reason to use singu tierstack. Nulli and Collapse are A tier if you’re comparing viability within a class, but once you start keeping in mind mythics from other classes they’re basically locked into B tier.

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Yeah I’m not sure why so many things attached to that post lmao

 

Discoverer is too situational. You wont use it unless you lootrun

 

I just compare weapons of the same class
abso is lower than sunstar in probably both survivability and damage (not kidding although sunstar build uses 2 mythics while no suitable mythic boots are available for abso)
also A+ is literally A tier but have more versatility and my love for thunder weapons

but most high spell raw armor/accessories are acompanied with ms, not sure how to build high damage with mr

orange lily: https://wynndata.tk/s/l0jzi5
maybe spring can do way more damage? all of which I tested shows spring only does 1k more bomb arrow...
the only real detriment for it is the +10 shield cost

 

“Too situational.” 90% of Wynn content you’ll do at endgame is either Lring or Ingred farming, which are both made really easy with a disco.

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Singularity should be in A tier because the build in my signature makes literally every boss in the game as easy as drop-kicking a toddler.

 

What I said isn't affected by that meh olily build, and is a completely different point entirely. Anyway, here's a better one: https://wynndata.tk/s/xghab6

Yeah but the point is that your rankings are extremely wack when there's no concrete logic behind placements

Pure only becomes competitive with fatal with a constantly cycle-able build with at least 1/3 fatal meteor, and constant pure cycling at max speed is slowed down by a melee. Sure, high meteor numbers might look nice, but they're pretty awful in practice if you don't have the mana regen to back it up/are using mana steal.
https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/269404/

I prefer mana steal for basically everything but pure is the one place where it's just bad.

Hard carried by vortexian accessories! Wow, what a surprise.
Also note that there are numerous builds that trivialize all content in the game, and many don't touch crafteds at all. Not a very good way to rate singu.

 

But tierstack singu is so oppressive in pve that it's automatically a high tier mythic, even with crafteds. Not to mention that those crafteds aren't any less difficult to get than some other accessories.