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Which Class Would Win In A Real Life Situation Lore Wise?

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Flynn Taggart, May 13, 2020.

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Who would be the winnder?

  1. Assassin with cata

    73 vote(s)
    65.2%
  2. Warrior with Guard

    5 vote(s)
    4.5%
  3. Archer with Strati

    8 vote(s)
    7.1%
  4. Shaman with Toxo

    7 vote(s)
    6.3%
  5. Mage with lament

    19 vote(s)
    17.0%
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  1. btdmaster

    btdmaster Famous Adventurer VIP Item Team

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    Doesn't that really only come into play at extremely high speeds, not 200mph? 200mph is pretty much nothing. Plus, even airline attendants, who spend a decent bit of their lives at high speeds (like over 500 mph) would only get an extra second if even of time, comapred to a normal person
     
  2. Triactic

    Triactic Below average IQ VIP+

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    That theory only really comes into play at near lightspeed. We can assume that a 400ws archer would go between 250-300mph, so you wouldn't distort time or space in any way. If anything, the instant the archer was to stop their inertia would probably just rip their organs out of their body. My bet would actually be on weathered for most powerful mythic, since both cataclysm and collapse would probably cause some issues with physics and kill the user instantly, while weathered just zaps you in and out of existence while implying that you'll still have a physical presence while zapped out.
     
  3. 4Shady2Me

    4Shady2Me Well-Known Adventurer

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    Yea I just knew this concept existed but never learned the details about it, also to make it simpler just think of fighting the flash but hes moving about 11x slower.
    You are right about the high speeds as C in that equation represents the speed of light, though only a decimal of that speed, 200 mph is still incredible, in case you did not know speed is perceived by inconsistent motion, like when a car stops or reduces its speed, you can feel it. Constant motion on the other hand is the same feeling like you are right now, the earth is going hehe I go speed spin and you not even feeling it, that is the same feeling with airline attendants as they spend a large majority of time in constant motion with the exception of takeoff and landing phases. Of course things may be different as no one person or animal has ever experienced what its like running(not driving in a car but running using their own legs) at 200 mph but back to the question, do you think you can hit a person that is able to run at 200 mph shooting wind at you?

    This is all about perception, yes time or space wont be distorted but assuming the archer had practice with the weapon, they would have developed tachypsychia. For intertia issue, this is where da majik comes in as I'm pretty sure stratis assists its wielder's movement by surrounding them with air currents as I don't know any other way that they would help the wielder move, therefore the currents themselves would have a way of decreasing its velocity in a value that is non harmful to the wielder. I also did not know the Weathered mythic existed as I am still a new player. With that being said, I would say in a fight against catalysm, stratis would win, but against weathered,

    it would lose because its like fighting this guy -->[​IMG]
     
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  4. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Right. assuming the absolute best case scenario you’d be traveling at 254 miles per hour or 113 m/s; that’s slower than the average commercial plane as well as the speed of sound, which means two things:
    A. You aren’t traveling fast enough for relativity to meaningfully apply (I actually checked this in a relativity calculator; for every one second you experience anyone around you would experience 1.0000000000001 seconds. It’s negligible.)
    B. You’ll still be easily incapacitated by a reasonably sized shockwave (sound and shockwaves both travel at 343 m/s on average, roughly three times a strati wielder’s speed), especially since Strati’s lore states that it makes the wielder vulnerable to attack (which makes a surprising amount of sense; you’re basically moving in a car, but roughly four times as fast, with none of the protection. Realistically speaking, tripping on a pebble would probably kill you). Given Cataclysm’s lore we can probably assume that if it has enough power to generate portals to hell it can probably generate a large enough shockwave to be pretty much undodgeable. It also means that Strati would, realistically speaking, lose to all of the electricity based mythics, since Fatal and T-crack both harness lightning bolts, Az literally ruined an entire civilization and Divzer shoots bolts at what’s probably lightspeed.

    Again, it’s important to note that Cataclysm isn’t just something that’s able to open portals; it has so much raw concentrated energy that it’s able to tear holes in reality. Strictly speaking, that would require an infinite amount of energy, or something close to it. If we’re going by real-life examples, the closest thing we have is an actual black hole, an object that contains a finite amount of energy in an infinitely small volume. Except Cata is kind of the opposite; it contains an infinite or near-infinite amount of energy in a finite volume. Either way, infinite energy density and infinite or near infinite power. Strictly speaking, it should implode on itself, taking the solar system with it, but because of magic I guess it doesn’t. Cataclysm is probably strong enough to destroy entire planets; it’s certainly not going to matter how fast you can run.
    And if we’re assuming Strati protects it’s user from its harmful effects, we can probably assume the same for cataclysm (we kind of have to since it literally wouldn’t be a usable weapon otherwise), which means you’d be able to nuke everything forever with little to no repercussions. You could probably snap half the population of the universe with that much power.
     
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  5. Jirayut

    Jirayut strati masterrace VIP+

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  6. Triactic

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    I'm not really sure why Strati would be good lore wise, since it's never stated that it has many offensive capabilities outside of its ability to control air currents, which isn't as offensively effective as a lot of other mythics, and Strati also crushes you defensively. If Cata were to be able to tear holes through reality, we can assume that it would just be able to release a fuck ton of energy in an AoE around the user, which would kill any mythic user besides weathered, guardian, and nullification. That's why i consider those mythics the only real competitors to cata.
     
  7. Flynn Taggart

    Flynn Taggart Would an omnipresent always vore you 24/7 VIP

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    Bump of death
     
  8. EnderFlame1311

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    It wont die but cata will make a nether portal and banish the warrior. That’s how you could beat it
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    Also it’s really cool how a bunch of other good daggers make sure to but the word cataclysm in their lore, like the description for thrunda ripsaw.
     
  9. Emogla3

    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    "Noo you can't just erase reality"

    "haha cata go swoosh swoosh"
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    But against cata it would be like battling this guy -> [​IMG]

    and he is more dangerous
     
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  10. EnderFlame1311

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    Cata wins cuz it has raw power, don’t you think your hand has to move fast in order to rip holes in reality? Cata would go full OFA on weathered. Shockwaves and all. Also, weathered covers you with wind. It doesn’t make you as fast as wind. I imagine cata as pure thunder + power, wielding enough force to rip open reality. I don’t think any Wynn weapon could compare to that.
     
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  11. oh hello there

    oh hello there Well-Known Adventurer

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    can't kill someone if you can't see them
     
  12. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    I can tell you from experience with the Matrojan Idol this is very much false
     
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  13. Emogla3

    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    this must be the work of an enemy 「spell」
     
  14. Triactic

    Triactic Below average IQ VIP+

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    Cata's lore says "None believe that a tool with enough power to accomplish such a monumental feat could exist. And yet..." This heavily implies that Cata could open a rift between dimensions, but it's never explicitly said that it can. It also doesn't say anything about the circumstances needed to open a rift with Cata, which means that Cata might outright kill you if you attempt to open a rift.
     
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  15. Endercomet

    Endercomet HongKonger

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    And it never said that any wielder can make it open rifts, it may need some deity or something else to truly harness all of its power
     
  16. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Then the wielder of Stratisformis is Salted. Have a nice time defeating him
     
  17. Emogla3

    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    Even without the rifts, cata is still powerful af. Being invisible can be enough to win against Strati on its own.
     
  18. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    why is strati even considered for a top lore mythic

    it's nowhere near the top
     
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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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  20. Emogla3

    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    super fast attack speed
     
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