Any Class Help Irony On Helping Noobs

"Looking for build on level 40"


Most builders :
"You don't really need build before endgame."
"Use any xp gear"
"Use morph set"




[Noob choose to use morph set]
[After many weeks, noob returns to #class_builds]




"Looking for good endgame mage build"


Builders :
[Ignores]
"What element or playstyle do you prefer?"
- Noob knows nothing about it since morph


Often, when I see those type of noobs, I throw this guide
https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/class-building-101.266243/
Class build guide written by @Druser

It's detailed guide for sure, but I noticed that on the perspective of noobs, it's just wall of text..




Wonder if we were acting wrong for whole time

How do we solve this problem?

 

what i said at almost 3 in the morning like a day ago:


I prefer just telling those new players to look around in armor/weapon/dungeon merchants because those items are usually still quite good at their level, and telling them to get xp gear is important not because they can get to endgame and then get a cool build, but because they're usually below the grindier levels, and already having some xp bonus going into those is incredibly useful.

If a player shows actual interest in items and builds we should definitely help them and not shoot them down because they're lower level, but those tend be an exception and over 95% of people under level 70 asking for a build are just doing so expecting a list of items to get/buy, nothing more and nothing less. Might as well recommend them some pieces that'll stay useful at later levels, since they probably won't care about builds or items until they've finished leveling.

 

Lol this exists
https://forums.wynncraft.com/thread...e-request-or-suggest-low-level-builds.253478/

 

This looks more like something that will make people just use a build but it won't really get them to build their own

 

not noob here, I can confirm every wall of text I see in build section I just scroll down till I see the wynndata link

 

@Muchwag and I are working on something... slowly...

(I agree druser's guide is great but it being a wall of text discourages most people)

 

Yeah that is what it does, I sent it and other guides to 2 of my friends trying to help them and they said wtf and blocked my phone until I stopped talking about wynn with them

 

@Endercomet ur time to shine

 

I find it more enjoyable to use gear found on the way to fight mobs and complete quests. The thing is some noobs may get stuck or have no idea on how to progress because they often die or can’t fight a boss very well
Rather than finding a friend they can get some upgrades through getting a better build.
I don’t think getting too detailed is needed because they are not being class builders themselves, but basic ideas of spell spam and melee is needed.

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Getting gear and upgrading the set of armor you use is a part of the levelling experience, but shutting them off from an actual build is not needed

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Also preventing people from using some stupid thing they think is good like TFA at low levels or mono elemental earth/thunder/air is a good thing

 

imo a good way is to tell people what most stats mean, at low level theres a fuckton of stats that kinda just exist but are useless, and new players can get confused on it

 

Oh yeah can the game stop lying to new players

Telling new players that profs are necessary and that ele defs matter is hurting a lot of people

 

Someone I have been trying to get playing the game for ages just thinks that the game is too grindy because seeing the crafting in the tutorial made him think that the games will make him grind and play for hours and that prevents people from playing because it makes them feel like there is not place to play casually.
Profs should be introduced while you are playing by quests and other things like the gathering miniquests

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Or even just random npcs that are mentioning it sometimes

 

I don't remember any mention of ele defs in early game, but I comepletely agree that profs are not essential. The only reason I even played through the new tutorial was because my friend was encouraging me to play more, because the tutorial is horrible now. I love the story of it, but the prof thing needs to leave.