Discussion About Every Mythic In The Game

This discussion thread was written by an unranked player with somewhat middling networth barely enough to test (probably) every Mythic in the game, if not theorycraft about them. Take everything said in this discussion thread with a grain of salt.

As of 1.19, Major ID's have become a thing and have changed the way the game is played. Well, kind of. Only some Mythics got a Major ID, while others got a rework or two along the way instead.

This post is more or less a discussion to talk about what is each Mythic's niche and what is about them.

DISCLAIMER: I haven't tested literally every Mythic in the game. I also haven't included Az and Archangel due to their low endgame viability, which is why the title is somewhat misleading. #BuffAz

NOTE (Because some people can't behave): If you have something to say, do not say "this thread sucks delete pls" and instead say what is wrong with this thread out loud. And read the first ever sentence in this thread.

Mythics Legend - Earth Thunder Water Fire Air Rainbow LL (Low Level) Armor

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a) Melee Mythics

Melee, a.k.a. Main attacks are more or less secondary to spellcasting, unless it really is your only viable damage output. These Mythics dish out damage by left-clicking your opponent to death. Due to their limited range (exceptions apply), they require you to get up close and personal with your opponent, but melee attacks cost no mana.

Melee Mythics are as follows: Alkatraz, Apocalypse, Aftershock, Warchief, Dawnbreak

• Alkatraz: Tierstacking is very common for this Mythic, allowing it to dish out tons of damage, but is very susceptible to incoming damage due to Warrior melees being janky at best, suffers from a lack of range. Alkatraz has no powder special. Keep that in mind.
  
  
• Apocalypse: Apoc used to be a go-at for pretty much everything (as long as you didn't take Water damage), and while it still sees some use, at 1.19 it was drastically outclassed by its bigger and more defensive brother, Guardian. Still, tierstacking is a thing for Apoc, and its (nearly) unmatched sustain can still help you wreak havoc in wars and endgame challenges alike.
  
  
• Aftershock: Aftershock is... bizarre. It's a melee Mythic for, of all classes, Shaman. However, make no mistake - since Shaman fires three, powerful rays of damage (each for its own instance of damage), it can deal lots of damage, really quickly. It also stacks powder specials really quickly due to how Shaman's powder specials work. No idea.
  
  
• Warchief: Better known as Memechief or "the One pair of boots" due to the tendency of players casting it (while either still in the box or unboxed) into the fires of Mt. Wynn, to DESTROY THEM. Memes aside, Warchief has very high physical damage ids that make it incredible for melee damage builds, especially those that are duoelemental Earth/Thunder.
  
  
• Dawnbreak: These boots are, fortunately, not Memechief v2. These boots are the bigger brothers of Blind Thrust, a Fabled pair of boots with similiar stats, but Dawnbreak is Fire/Thunder instead of Earth. Consider going for an ETF build with these, as they will make fantastic Heavy Melee boots.

b) Spell-spam Mythics

Spells are, as mentioned earlier, the go-to damage output in Wynncraft. Damage output is significantly higher than melee, but because of another resource, Mana, being a thing, it may pose some issues. Consider investing in strong Mana Regen equipment.

Spell-spam Mythics are as follows: Idol, Hero*, Thrundacrack, Spring, Freedom, Lament, Fatal, Pure, Nirvana, Cataclysm, Hadal, Sunstar, Fantasia, Slayer, Stardew (that's quite a long list, isn't it?)

• Idol: Ah, my first Mythic. Idol has decent Mana Regen and Raw Spell Damage to make spellcasting stronger. It also has somewhat free Charges due to 2nd Spell Cost identification being -13 (max).
  
  
• Hero*: Hero is also an utility Mythic! It offers plenty of movement speed, stats and -bizarrely enough- health regen. It also has a Major ID that allows WFA/EFA builds to abuse the inherent tankiness of these builds to hover around 50%, which triggers Savior's Sacrifice, giving all nearby players a significant damage and defense boost. It's status as a spell-spam Mythic is largely cemented by the existence of the Tempest (TWA) archetype, which focuses on dealing lots of damage while evading attacks.
  
  
• Thrundacrack: Quinque's Thunder-Water brother. It has the highest damage output (albeit fluctuating) of all Spear Mythics in terms of Spell Damage, and goes well with both TWF and TWA builds. I haven't used this Spear in TFA, so I cannot comment on its effectiveness, but the punishment on Health Regen pretty much mandates the absence of Raw Health Regen (negative, obviously) and presence of Life Steal (if running TFA).
  
  
• Spring: Spring's -1 Arrow Bomb cost drastically improves AoE DPS, though beware of the +1 Arrow Shield cost. Also, it gives -40 Dexterity, which is a huge hit to TWA builds - EWA is one of the viable archetypes for Spring. It synergizes somewhat with Draoi Fair due to the archetype used - reducing the mana cost of Arrow Storm and Arrow Shield (not that it needs that), effectively negating some Spring's disadvantages. Though keep in mind that Spring is not particularly known for dealing obscene amounts of damage, and is in dire need of a buff.
  WA and WFA are also viable archetypes.
  
  
• Freedom: Freedom is the best bow in the game, mainly due to its disgusting damage output and its all arounder nature. It synergizes a bit too well with Rainbow Sanctuary, does stupidly high rainbow damage (far outclassing Fog of Creation and Zero), and offers both Health and Mana Regen, albeit by small amounts.
  
  
• Lament: With the 1.19.4 patch, Lament went from being "Lameme" to actually (slightly) outclassing Nepta at long last! Mana steal on that wand is massive, allowing a hybrid playstyle that still focuses on spellcasting while making sure your mana stays afloat with melee attacks. Its heals are also massive thanks to its stupid high Water Damage identification, as Heal spell is affected by it.
  
  
• Fatal: Inverse with Fatal. It's a hybrid spellcasting Mythic, with Teleport nearly costing no mana, effectively perma-blinding some enemies. However, its damage output is very varied, dealing either very low damage or very high damage. Slayer is very powerful with this Mythic.
  
  
• Pure: The single biggest winner of 1.19, gaining the absurdly broken Entropy Major ID, which triples the fall speed of Meteors, effectively tripling the cast rate. However, its biggest downside is the +1 Meteor cost, which cripples Pure's damage output. TWA is the go-to archetype for this Wand, with Slayer being the boots of choice for maximizing damage output (and reducing Meteor's mana cost to a mere 1), though Stardew could be considered as well thanks to Pure's high mana steal.
  
  
• Nirvana: Nirvana has the Transcendence Major ID, causing spells to sometimes (50% of the time) have no mana cost. This is a powerful Major ID, and allows for even more spellcasting, though not by a large amount. Alas, it doesn't exactly synergize with the two Mythic boots on this category, but it does synergize with Draoi Fair.
  
  
• Cataclysm: Cataclysm has arguably the highest damage output of any dagger in the game, now amped up further thanks to Vanish getting a buff, but cripples the survivability of its user with its nasty -Health identification. Don't bring your health too low to avoid getting oneshotted, and definitely avoid the ETW archetype unless you're a skilled player. TWA is the way to go here. Or TFA.
  
  
• Hadal: Hadal's surprisingly high 8/4s Mana Regen (and even higher Spell Damage id, which is 98% peak), is countered by its obscene spell costs. The spell costs can be built around with items like Demon Tide or Slayer, with the former's -Spell Damage% being countered by Hadal's own absurdly high ID.
  
  
• Sunstar: Sunstar has arguably the highest damage output of any Relik in the game (besides Aftershock melee), enhanced further by reflection and thorns, punishing enemies that attack you. It's also melee compatible somewhat. TWA, TFA and ETW are all valid archetypes, but when using the last, be sure to move around a lot.
  
  
• Fantasia: Fantasia is certainly a lot stronger than its siblings Hard Light, which doesn't exactly keep up, and The Watched, which is a much tankier alternative. Unfortunately, Fantasia suffers from a crippling -3/4s Mana Regen (max) and Mana Steal (max), making it necessary to bring Mana Regen items while capitalizing on damage. Suppression, Moon Pool Circlet and Virtuoso/Capricorn are all synergetic with Fantasia. Note that this item also has -Cost% IDs on all four spells. Consider Slayer.
  
  
• Slayer: The only reason why this Mythic is not classified as Hybrid is its insane -3rd Spell Cost% identification. This ID alone singlehandedly makes Pure disgustingly broken, giving it 1 cost Meteors. It also is very powerful with Mythics like Thrundacrack, Sunstar and Fatal.
  
  
• Stardew: Stardew is the "MOAR SPELL DAMAGE" alternative to Slayer, at the cost of Mana Regen - countered by its Mana Steal ID. It's pretty nifty in ETW, TWA and TWF builds, especially on hybrid builds.

c) Hybrid Mythics

Spell damage is always primary to melee, but sometimes you need both to deal damage and/or sustain the former continuously. Hybrid Mythics have build options that can differ wildly, allowing for pretty interesting playstyles and damage output that rivals Spellspam Mythics.

Hybrid Mythics are as follows: Collapse, Divzer, Grandmother, Gaia, Singularity, Grimtrap, Galleon

• Collapse: Rainbow Sanctuary being a thing certainly helped Collapse a lot, although being damage oriented, it has hefty penalties to defenses. It has insane Melee Damage% and up to 5/4s Mana Steal, giving it plenty of room to create a strong hybrid that allows damage to be dealt both through spells and melee attacks.
  
  
• Divzer: -550 Agility is pretty much a hard hit for TWA and TFA builds if you're not dual wielding, but ETW and TWF work great with this Mythic. It has the highest consistent damage output of any Mythic bow in the game, bar absolutely none. TWA allows some endurance and gives it increased spell capabilities, while ETW capitalizes on damage, forgoing all defensive options. The reason why this is a hybrid is because you will be attacking constantly to regain all lost health and deal a ton of damage.
  
  
• Grandmother: GMA is both the winner and loser of 1.19 - HPR changes was an effective nerf, quickly amended with reduced -Health Regen values that are still punishing, but not as much as before. However, the changes also introduced +70 Agility - highest of quite literally any Mythic (surpassing Moontower!!) in the game, giving certain builds unmatched survivability and damage on the same package. It is a very powerful Mythic, and their wielders, should they build smart enough, are a force to be reckoned with.
  
  
• Gaia: While it doesn't neccessarily rival Alkatraz in terms of damage output, it has better utility (Mages have more utility in general anyway) and has larger range. It also has powder specials available, which is another boon that works against Alkatraz, and can actually use spells.
  
  
• Singularity: Don't be discouraged by its high -Walk Speed%, Singularity is worth its salt thanks to its high damage output - both on melee (tierstack) and magic. It has no Mana Steal or Mana Regen, so you're on your own supplying some for your builds.
  
  
• Grimtrap: Interestingly enough, Grimtrap is one. Grim is a powerful semi-utility Mythic that not only does high damage, but also is a very versatile Mythic, due to numerous options being available for building around.
  
  
• Galleon: Galleon also has gained some degree of versatility in Earth-Water builds with 1.19(?) - giving it high Poison, 5/4s Mana Steal (which is pretty good) and high melee and elemental damage boost. The downsides are that you attack slower than usual, and it kills your Thunder defense.

d) Mobility Mythics

When combat isn't your thing and/or you wish to be more mobile in combat, these Mythics bring unparalleled movement to the table, allowing you to kite your enemies with ease or traverse long distances very quickly.

Mobility Mythics are as follows: Stratiformis, Warp, Weathered, Olympic, Revenant

• Stratiformis: Damage wise, it is similiar to Gale's however, as it was the subject of nerfs. Its primary strength is its high walk speed, which is highly favored by lootrunners. Other than that, it's just Gale's Force with health penalty and slightly better damage.
  
  
• Warp: Speaking of triple digit movespeed IDs, Warp has the highest Walk Speed ID of any item in the game, including crafteds, bar none. However, it also features a very punishing -Health Regen (and a somewhat counterable -Mana Regen), forcing the use of EWA (Draoi Fair) or WFA (HPR items) to counteract it. This item has some degree of use in actual combat, but it's more for lootruns than anything else, in no small part thanks to its insane -2nd Spell Cost Raw ID.
  
  
• Weathered: Two words: Roving Assassin. Weathered is a semi-spellspam Mythic that has a very powerful Major ID that prevents mana leakage by eliminating the mana drain from Vanish.
  
  
• Olympic: Athletes, anyone? Olympic has an insane Jump Height ID, which is only further enhanced by Booster Plate if you have them. Get ready to moonjump all over the place. Be wary that this Mythic also sees lots of use in lootruns (well, kind of), so its price point might be high. TWA is the best archetype for Olympic.
  
  
• Revenant: Revenant is a bizarre addition considering it's an Earth-Air Mythic. Do keep in mind that it is similiar to Dune Storm, with actual Health.

e) Endurance Mythics

The name of this Mythic class comes from the Powder passive it is commonly associated with. They also provide plenty of survivability, but on their own without a damage dealer, don't expect to finish endgame challenges any time soon (exceptions apply).

Endurance Mythics are as follows: Guardian, Ignis, Monster, Inferno, Nullification, Absolution, Resurgence*, Boreal, Crusade Sabatons

• Guardian: Guardian not only has the best defensive stat combo in the game, but also a Major ID that redirects 50% of incoming damage from nearby players to the wielder, making it the perfect party-oriented Mythic to wield. TWF, WFA and TFA are all valid playstyles for this Mythic, although the 2nd will see much more use than the other two.
  
  
• Ignis: Ignis is the 2nd biggest winner of 1.19, receiving the Heart of the Pack Major ID that heals all nearby players, every 4 seconds (regen), for 35% of the health you regenerate. HPR oriented WFA builds recommended, although TWF and TFA are valid options as well.
  
  
• Monster: Monster is a bizarre addition, although it makes sense considering it gives plenty of HP to work with (despite its Heal Cost penalty). It could definitely see some use as a TFA Mythic.
  
  
• Inferno*: Inferno is a pretty wacky addition for this category, and although it has some degree of survivability, it's more damage oriented than defense oriented - making it viable for TWF and TFA builds. However...
  *Inferno being an Endurance Mythic is debatable at best, since some people say it's a hybrid.
  
  
• Nullification: When it's defense, Nullification has to be the "numero uno" of elemental defense Mythics. It's a tribrid - it gives plenty of elemental endurance, punishes enemies for attacking the wielder (cactus) and has actually decent sustain to keep going.
  
  
• Absolution: The undisputed king of Reliks. Absolution has both survivability and damage on the same package, not only dealing high damage, but also tanking it, giving any Absolution wielder a strong presence, only matched perfectly with a TWF build. Be sure to keep your totem up though, because it is your primary healing method, as Absolution offers no Health Regen. Totem heals are greatly beefed up by the Water Damage% ID, which itself enjoys reduced costs. Note that this Mythic has no Powder Slots, and for a good reason.
  
  
• Resurgence*: Buffed, then nerfed, in 1.19.1 and 1.19.4 respectively - Resurgence has the highest Mana Regen stat of any armor (let alone Mythic) in the entire game, not counting Crafteds. However, it is very punishing on both Melee and Spell damages. Despite this, it sees a lot of use as a disgusting addition to The Nothing builds, which are TWF anyway by nature.
  As pointed out by another player, it also gives quite a lot of Intelligence. Since it has high mana regen on its own, it can singlehandedly make most spell builds float.
  *Pending movement to Spellspam category
  
  
• Boreal: Ignis/Guardian and Boreal are the bread and butter of virtually every defensive WFA build in the game, buffed further with the Health Regen changes in 1.19.4. It pairs very well with Ignis, further enhancing the healing(?) from Heart of the Pack.
  
  
• Crusade Sabatons: High everything in terms of defensive prowess. The only downside is decreased Walk Speed - other than that, it rivals Statue in defensive power, while also retaining the ability to move. Useful in EFA builds if you need more defense on your tierstack melee builds. Or EWF builds. Or ETF builds.

f) Utility Mythics

Sometimes, Mythics don't really fit to a specific archetype.

Utility Mythics are as follows: Discoverer, Moontower, Toxoplasmosis

• Discoverer: The ultimate loot bonus chestplate. It has no negatives besides the apparent lack of defensive stats - only pure Loot Bonus (200%, max!). Perfect for grinding ingredients and/or Boss Altar drops.
  
  
• Moontower: While technically a Mobility Mythic, Moontower is also a gargantuan stat stick for Water-Air builds (also countering the -Intelligence from the non-existent Ambivalence). It grants 110sp, taking away 60 as penalty across the other three stats, as well as some stat boosts that nudge Moontower into becoming a fairly potent piece of Mythic armor in the right builds.
  
  
• Toxoplasmosis: Plague Staff. On steroids. Illegal steroids. Its Poison ID range is simply disgusting - from a measly 3000/3s all the way up to a truly legendary 13000/3s! (Note that in PvP, Poison outright ignores Defense so it can be used to simply poke someone and say "omae wa mou shindeiru" before running like the wind. This item should've been renamed as Rabies.) It also has a widely varying price range because of this - from "just blacksmith it for 16 scrap LUL" to 60+ Stacks in auction threads!

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Keep in mind that all Mythics have varying niches and archetypal advantages/disadvantages over others - some may favor one style of gameplay, others may not. This thread only exists to give insights on what each Mythic has to offer, and has plenty of personal and collective opinions.

 

*laugh-cries in Diero Lair*

It kind of does. Unless you're running a low Agility build on TWA Spring (to focus Dexterity), -40 Dexterity hurts the overall damage output of Spring (especially if you have barely enough to run Steamjet Walkers, which is probably not the right choice here). There are obviously ways to amend this issue, but it still is a big penalty.

They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.

Fatal's damage is a bit too unreliable on melee (despite peak damage easily allowing some pretty wacky OHKO shenanigans), but Inferno I agree.