Info Item Team Thread - Item/ingredient/major Id Changes, Updates & More (updated 28/03/2020)

Rip Warp users. This update makes me depressed :(

 

Oooh
Is HP regen tank finally an option?
(One that’s not niche and doesn’t require a mythic because I know someone’s gonna call me out about that)

Right, I’m just gonna go down the list and voice my opinions on various changes

Aries changes are nice but I still cannot get why you chose to make the helmet associated with rams into a spell item while making the Pride of the Aerie into a melee item

I’m very conflicted about dondasch’s changes because they’re objectively good, but I’ve grinded out a near perfect Dondasch already so now I’ll have to do that all over again

Also HOLY JESUS booster plate

Also also what the fuck virgo. Is that a spite thing? Did someone go “give us back thorns virgo”, so you guys made this in response?

Also also also it’s so WEIRD to see that an item has gotten a buff to stealing and think “hey that’s great!”. But hey, buffs to ventus tail are neat

Ignition rework is interesting; I might actually use it for warrior

FUCK YES CONTRAST BUFF

Momentum changes are odd, but make sense, and it’s nice to see heavy melee get accessory support

Heroism is getting some major buffs, good to see

Bottled sky rework looks great and it’s nice to see some forgotten items get new support

As the, like, only user of Ehoole Drakeskin in existence, I am very down with those changes

Kickback changes had me worried for a second as I have a god roll of those, but they seem nice enough and leave the major parts intact, so I’m happy. Also, jump height yaaaay

Shaggy boots getting a buff for some reason

King of Hearts buff makes me very happy

About Face. What the fuck.

I might need to buy some ceramic-shell greaves


Overall, pretty nice changes this time around; glad to see the support for TFA and EFA. I’d say that the main element trios that need to be looked at now are EWF and TWF; EWF especially doesn’t really have an interesting identity, and it really would be a perfect candidate for heavy spell.

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Wait, what? This seems like a very huge change that isn’t clarified at all. I’m assuming it means quest rewards, but what about dungeon drops? Or something like Necklace of a Thousand Storms?

 

+ 12 jump boost anyone?

 

+14. Kickback got +1 too and there is Mirror's Edge

 

+14 my bad, Olympic 8, booster 4, mirror 1, kickback 1.

17 blocks of jump height in case anyone is curious since jump boost is exponential.

 

Booster plate could very well be a gift from god for warrior to finally get some verticall mobility.

 

loot-exclusives = t3+ loot chest items

 

So does this include mythics?

 

Nice update. I really appreciate how this update tries to buff currently irrelevant items to challenge the meta, as opposed to nerfing aspects of the meta that seem too dominant. Of all the item changes in the past, this is probably the only one that I've felt almost fully confident about. Although, I'm not sure how I feel about the hpr change, which blasts -hpr items/builds like my Gma setup in the face (guess I better adapt to doing 1hp no-hit solos from now on).

On an entirely different note, can we buff Alkatraz?

While it's an excellent tierstacking weapon, the 40k+ melee dps builds are rendered nonviable by a lack of walk speed or sheer glassiness. Melee warrior tends to rely on walk speed in order to deal damage to mobility spam enemies (Dr. Legendary). Along with this, the -SP are a huge detriment to both survivability and build options. I've attempted to build spell with it, yet it usually ends up falling flat on its face due to a lack of both intelligence and defensive SPs, along with a rather mediocre base damage compared to other spell options (maybe the new items/changes will let me do a decent spell build without intelligence though).

Usually, Alkatraz ends up with ~20k DPS on the more usable builds. Which would be really damn good, except things like this exist using the other melee spear. Which, despite having a considerably lower DPS, has much better survivability, spell access (as many Alkatraz builds rely on Centipede to max out their attack speed) and a powder special (courage/curse can minimize that DPS gap).

Overall, Alkatraz struggles as both a viable melee (despite being one of the highest tierstacked melee dps options in the game) and spell option. IMO, reduce the -SP drawbacks or simply bring the damage up much higher to account for its restrictiveness/glassiness.

I'll post some of the builds I've tested. For reference, I've tested a build which balanced EFA with some tierstack (~16k melee dps, 50 agil and def, and greed access). I've also tested an ETA build with about 20k DPS and 100% walkspeed (it was actually posted in #class-builds, can't remember by who though). I'll edit my builds into the post later. If anyone has any suggestions for an Alkatraz build, let me know, and I plan to try heavy melee alka soon.

 

Hey everyone, small update, but unfortunately the thorns and reflection change will not be a part of this patch but rather a later update as it is not coded/ready to go. While it cannot be added in this upcoming patch, we can't wait for its future addition in a later one to welcome

 

Heavy Melee Alkatraz is a terrible idea for obvious reasons.

Here's a 46k dps Alka build with pretty solid walkspeed: https://wynndata.tk/s/xi5t8j

And with the new item patch, try out Centi Twilight Dark Shroud Humbark Breezehands, and whatever other accessories. It should work quite well - I'd expect upwards of 30k dps with quite good survivability.

 

The item called Fallbreakers doesn't even break your fall.


Yet an identification to remove fall damage exists.


What the fuck, item team?

 

Right, I know this is a joke but the actual reason is probably just because it’s a store-bought item

 

That's way better than the ETA build I currently have. Will definitely be giving it a go. I'll post my thoughts later.

 

also https://wynndata.tk/s/6hyxd7 using new Dark Shroud, here's a very defensive Alka build (for what qualifies as very defensive by Alka standards)

 

Yeah, I saw the new Dark Shroud, it's pretty wack. I guess that gives Alkatraz one powerful playstyle, but I would still love to see support for the item in other archetypes outside of tierstack or ETA (hi I want to try EWA spellsteal Alka).

 

dark shroud gives too much sp, 65 sp is comparable to that of mythic boots.

 

eh i think its fine personally. I get its insane but I mean it's a really nice item to use in builds to allow for some really weird shit.

 

Yeah, so far I haven't managed to get anything super strong out of it. It's useful, certainly, as a good defensive option, but doesn't seem broken to me so far.

 

I think the only nerf that could possibly make sense is a slight nerf to the -spell% but honestly I don't think it needs it as it fits the mold for a legendary utility item very nicely.