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Assassin Is Now The Worst Class. Change My Mind.

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Foven, Feb 28, 2020.

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Whats the worst class?

  1. Assassin

    6 vote(s)
    7.3%
  2. Warrior

    62 vote(s)
    75.6%
  3. Mage

    8 vote(s)
    9.8%
  4. Archer

    1 vote(s)
    1.2%
  5. Shaman boi

    5 vote(s)
    6.1%
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  1. GetALifeNerd

    GetALifeNerd Steel Balls.

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    Assassins capability in a nutshell:

    -Assassin has the best mobility hands down.

    -It has the highest close range DPS in game (I'm talking about balanced spell builds that are not total glass cannons, Assassin heavy melee is a thing too so it might be the best melee class).

    -Second highest base defence in game.

    -Stunlocking, great AOE, Single target spell, 80% damage boost, Invis, Speed 5, great spell spam combos, its CC is only second to shaman and it can fly.

    Assassin is probably the best class right now for both PVP and PVE.
     
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  2. Jirayut

    Jirayut strati masterrace VIP+

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    Archer noises
     
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  3. HoboMaggot

    HoboMaggot . ę̸͚̳̙̳̠͖̳̓̇̄̓͂̂̆ VIP+

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    Someong soloing LI with a frikin wybel paw
    Wybel Paw item: https://wynncraft.gamepedia.com/Wybel_Paw

    Someone soloing EO with OAK SHEARS:
    I forgot the link of a guy doing 160k quakes with assassin
     
  4. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    I'm just gonna say it one more time, since I'm still in disbelief that someone can still think assassin is underpowered.

    Assassin is the best class.

    Do you get it now?
    Actual best class debate is complicated but assassin is a big contender because it just does big number
     
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  5. by2011

    by2011 category creator VIP+

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    uh a lot of people here are talking about how assassin can still hit 7k pre-vanished spins blah blah blah...

    but y'all should probably realize that even with low spins etc, assassin completely shreds
    a. vanish - applies a MULTIPLICATIVE WTF 80% damage buff, which is actually insane.
    b. tankiness - most spell builds that have low spell damage are the result of a trade-off, which usually is in the form of tankiness. this tankiness allows you to constantly whale on enemies without worrying about dying/taking breaks in order to recuperate
    c. assassin has a lot of damaging spells... yeah that's about it

    combine all of these and a "base" (no curse/vanished) 4k spins manna tank can shred basically anything tasim uh oh super quickly
     
  6. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    that's your problem and not assassin's.
    oh right, greed is also super good with assassin cuz of multihit and smoke bomb having a chance to proc stealing on every hit allowing you to make it rain, and because The Exploited exists
    like I'd say shaman is the only class that can utilize it better since totem lets you drop emeralds consistently in a wide AoE
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    see, this I can actually understand since until you get vanish upgrades 1 and 2, and spin's stun upgrade, it is kind of a slog to use with the damage nerf (though mage is still worse to get through IMO)
     
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  7. Ramattra

    Ramattra Ravager CHAMPION

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    Assassin wasn't even the worst class when 1.19 first came out, it was terrible, but warrior was still worse, assassin isn't too strong before vanish, but after vanish it's nuts. The vanish buff was just what assassin needed to bypass mage again in terms of viability and I won't talk about wars, so let's talk about like LI or whatever the non-warrers do lol. I've had the most success in LI not even with heavy melee assassin, but spell based hybrid and 1 on 1 boss clearing is just so easy for assassin and so quick. I'm going to consider assassin to be the second best class because while shaman is better, shaman is just a ridiculously OP one handed zero skill class that was a mistake so we'll just ignore it for now. I honestly think assassin is now better for boss fights than archer is in most scenarios. Also for your builds just because I like building, don't use spell warrior, if you're a defensive type player use ignition or something https://wynndata.tk/s/agr0qp spell warrior is just terrible lmao, all its spells do is throw mobs around. Morrowind doesn't need to be tanky I get that it's your play style but most builds don't need both agi and defense unless it's a melee build https://www.wynndata.tk/s/fqja5u. With alka cometflinger usually agility is preferred with archer, so I'd use something like this https://wynndata.tk/s/2ojdm6 if not I just hope you're using your extra sp to get to like 108 int. Honestly I don't like shaman in the slightest as mentioned earlier and I don't care enough about the class to critique it, but I'd just like make sure your int is around 108 or something just so an intel pot will bring you up to 129 int. Also assassin I'd say is the most diverse class that can fit any play style, mage is kinda meh all around, archer melee sucks, spell warrior sucks and shaman, well we know my opinion on that by now lmfao, but assassin can use nice melee weapons like flameshot and exploited, spell has infused hive dagger ripsaw and kinda nona (even ivory since vanish can make it moderately usable lmao), hybrid has black and sitis and because of the assassin change it has improved the class so much.
     
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  8. Benjin

    Benjin Famous Adventurer

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    *cough cough* condescending is now my favorite word
     
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  9. Arkade

    Arkade Who am I? CHAMPION

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    Heavy Melee assasin is absolute god tier tho.
     
  10. Benjin

    Benjin Famous Adventurer

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    Out of the entire thread, this post has pissed me off the most, but hey I'm not gonna be the one to start the argument that's someone else's job
    Also...
    You have 40 hours of Shaman experience :/
     
  11. StormKing3

    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    It's not even that bad, it's just his opinion. If you disagree with it you can give a reason for disagreeing without being insulting.

    Also: "noob" - is that a word anyone over 12 says now?
     
  12. Endercomet

    Endercomet HongKonger

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    Well... I agree that the insulting part doesn’t help, but seriously saying assassin is the worst class and how it’s unplayable is really just wrong, it’s like saying that Quantum mechanics is easier than algebra. Of course people will get mad.
    Also you have a bad record for taking things too seriously and offending people. Noob is a very normal thing to say. Not like everybody has to be a gentlemen here.
     
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  13. Emogla3

    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    Ok here's a story about Assassin and some other people doing LI:

    So I was doing LI with 3 other guys (I was the only assassin) and there was 2 mages and a shaman, and when i left the party they were like "Oh no now we can't beat LI anymore because we don't have an assassin and theres only 3 of us".

    And yeah that happened. I don't know what to think of some wynn players anymore

    Also Shaman is the worst class too OP in certain situations, I don't like the playstyle being so centered around 1 spell and people who are bad can't play it cus it needs skill (at least according to Wynn)
     
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  14. StormKing3

    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    I'll take a bad record for behavo behaving politely and like a "gentlemen" as you nicely put it any day lol. Although in the past I have gotten perhaps just a littlleee too annoyed at people, especially if they attack a newbie and don't apologise. I did just try out assassin recently and I actually found it a lot better than I remembered, I didn't even know that vanish moved you until now
     
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  15. Benjin

    Benjin Famous Adventurer

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    On the Hypixel forums it's a fucking mess, especially with that "non" bullshit in HSB
    Also, noob is a mock of the actual way to spell it, it's meant to be newbie
     
  16. Endercomet

    Endercomet HongKonger

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    At least we are not being too toxic like the ranked players there
     
  17. bloww

    bloww Shoutbox Fancam Account HERO

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    guys i think they get it this thread has 3 pages of listing the same arguments over and over again
     
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  18. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin. HERO

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    I would personally say, its a fun class, if not the funniest class, due to its spells being well designed around synergy.

    Even though I would argue its really well designed, I would also say its the easiest class however. As soon as you unlock prison, it's becomes... Well, kinda dumb. Melee bosses are litteraly unable to touch you, and its kind of funny.
     
  19. Benjin

    Benjin Famous Adventurer

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    Yeah, prison definitely needs a change
     
  20. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    Assassin being good isn't an opinion though, it's something that can be objectively determined. Don't treat everything as opinion-based.

    And yes, most people here have used the word "noob" and most people here are over 12. Does anyone over 12 even try to assume other people's age as an insult? :/

    Adding nothing to the discussion as always, I see :)
    Case in point, not contributing anything and starting a completely different argument like always.





    Anyway, my point is that I'm shocked someone who has played the game for over a few months would think assassin is weak, much less the worst class. Maybe it's archer syndrome, since too much archer warps your perception of other classes (speaking from experience and laziness)
     
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