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Wynncraft's Geographical Impracticalities

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Benjin, Jan 2, 2020.

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  1. Benjin

    Benjin Famous Adventurer

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    So yeah, the Wynncraft map, enormous, but pretty geographically impractical, now I'm not a geography expert but from basic knowledge that's not how geography works, so I guess I'll see about that

    Continents:
    Unless some sort of dedicated fan of some sort stitched the three continents together, I have no idea what... um, thinking of a good name for Pangea, uhh, Gavcorwy (yes it's stupid) would look like, because the provinces of Wynn, Gavel and Corkus make NO SENSE, their strange shape and the oddly scattered look of the "Ocean" islands makes for a very strangely combined body of land, but then there's that, the mountain border, this thing literally encases the entire map, and it makes very little sense.
    The "Ocean":
    Because of how the Ocean is also bordered, which means the Ocean isn't a ocean, but just a landlocked sea (landlocked oceans don't appear to be a thing in real life but just listen), which means the Ocean could just be ignored as a route to Gavel but instead you could literally just migrate on the mountain border till you get to Gavel, I mean, Jofash Docks is now gonna be Jofash Ports.

    I could talk about the poles, but I don't think that's very odd in a world filled with magic strong enough to sink cities, but anyway, kinda made this thread for the fun of it



     
  2. Bart (MC)

    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC) CHAMPION

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    Actually, if you put the islands together and move Gavel southwards, it doesn't look all that strange, and the only thing that doesn't fit very well is Volcanic Island.
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    Just a sidenote, but on this map it almost seems like Selchar and Nemract were once the same city- I'd like to think that they were, and one third moved with the ocean, one third stayed in Wynn and the middle third sunk to the bottom of the sea: Sarnfic.
     
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    I very much doubt that arguing the map of Wynncraft has any poles to begin with had any merit. For example, there is a jungle right next to a frozen area. Essentially, a tropical area right next to a polar area.
    Of course, Nesaak is not naturally frozen. It was frozen by Theorick. So that point could be taken more or less seriously.
    However, there is another interesting thing to point out which shows that Wynncraft either does not take place on a spherical globe or is a hollow globe. That is the Sky Islands and the Void. The actual tangible existence of the Void Islands shows that the world is hollow (odd considering there are volcanoes). The portal to Dern is another example of this.

    If one were to argue that Wynncraft took place on a spherical globe and had poles, one of the poles would have to be the Ice Islands. Thus, this would render the Dernal Jungle to be near the equator. Assuming Wynncraft also has seasons (probably does due to the existence of the legendary “Winter’s Essence”), it would put Ragni and Detlas around the 23.5 degree latitude and would explain the presence of sheep and cattle. This would also put Olux around the -23.5 degree latitude and would explain its presense of cattle.
    Problems arise when trying to explain the Almuj desert. It’s a bit too far from the equator and a bit too close to the pole. I suppose it could be like the desert in South Africa but the jungle (I’m using the term jungle as tropical rainforest even though that is inaccurate) is also too far to explain Almuj.
    Then there’s the thorn of explaining the Void and Sky Islands which make no sense especially with the presense of volcanoes.

    So yes, Wynncraft makes no sense.
     
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    I have a very, VERY foggy memory of either a bit of NPC dialogue or the lore of a item claiming that some pissed off mage froze some islands (I wouldn't be surprised if this was Theorick) but yeah, I didn't exactly put in mind if the world had layers, because we know that corruption spikes seep VERY deep underground, but the exact depth isn't very easy to tell, in fact, now corruption in the void seems sketchy, but we also know that the void is located at 1000 meters (blocks) underground
     
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    If you want to find all the geographical issues with the map, there’s a whole lot of them:

    1. Mountains are normally created through tectonic plates colliding. If there are mountains surrounding the entire world and very few within it, it is implied that there must be some sort of enormous continent surrounding the entire map, and the map itself consists of several supercontinents.

    2. Water generally flows down from higher elevations. In Wynn, there are rivers in which the middle is a higher elevation than either end, and water seemingly just exists with no sign of a cycle.

    3. The ocean floor is nearly perfectly flat. That doesn’t happen in real oceans.

    4. The world is either flat or Silent Expanse shares a border with Molten Heights, directly at the location of the portal.

    5. None of the water in Gavel is connected to the ocean in any way whatsoever. (Except for a bunch of random waterfalls on the mountain border)

    So yeah, I think we can all agree that Wynn doesn’t really hold up geographically.
     
  6. Snerp

    Snerp Grand Terrainer Modeler HERO Builder

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    Too late to fix the geography now anyway :/
     
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    All these could be explained with one thing, magik
     
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    The volcanic islands formation could be attributed to a to hotspot just like how the Hawaiian Islands were formed
     
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    Don't worry man, you can fix this in Wynn 2.0
     
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    Wynn 2.0 in hytale 2021
     
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    Honestly if they make a Wynn 2.0 I would rather it be its own game.
     
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    Well guess we'll just wait until we can attract a big game company's attention to raise funds
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    Now, yes, Hytale has many more customization features than Minecraft, and Wynncraft in Hytale would probably be much more massive and expansive compared to Minecraft Wynncraft, but chances are that if Wynncraft 2.0 ever happens, the original team won't be the ones behind it, now yes, the Music,Build and Modeling team will stay, for sure, but I'm not sure if any programmers have any experience with the new engine, and from what I've read it uses C+, so I suppose it could be possible if a new team is hired
     
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    Hytales uses C# for the client, all server modifications are in java, like the bukkit API. Besides that, C+ and java are quite similar.
     
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    What about code and AI? We know that Hytale won't essentially depend on plugins due to the fact it has its own engine, modeler and built-in mod system
     
  18. __Excel

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    Hytale servers are written in java. So is their API for making plugins (I think they call them mods though, even though they are only server side). There is absolutely no reason to make the API in a different language than the server language.

    Also you can't modify the hytale client code, they decided to take a lesson from minecraft and have an actual system which will probably help against cheaters.
     
  19. Zelli

    Zelli Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Let's remake the whole map in this case :/

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  20. Saya

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    insert gavel lake thread here
     
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