SPOILER Warning: Extremely Triggered And Whiny Rant

Alright, so I'm going start calm, then get mad really quickly, then end calm. I'm sorry if you have a stroke while trying to read my wall of text.

Don't get me wrong, I love this update. I love the new music, quests, class, and new area. Except I haven't really been able to explore the whole new area.

Do you know why that is?

Spoiler

These things. These Wretched Wretches. I just want to play the game and do A Hunter's Calling.
But no.

I have tried so many times to beat this dungeon. Iv'e done everything you can imagine: A large group, a small group, solo with 30 million pots, me and a mage etc. I have a tank warrior build and I'll admit that it's not the best build. But this dungeon renders tanks absolutely useless! Listen, I get why they made most of the eye attacks to be % based: They wanted to make it difficult and so that people couldn't just tank everything.
However, that makes tanks useless because we will just get damaged the same as everyone else. The point of a tank is to NOT take as much damage as everyone but still be able to take hits.

And before you go "just get good" or "I've soloed it 309,828 times with no mythics and no pots," I don't think I should have to change my entire build for one dungeon just because one dungeon makes my build useless. Dungeons should not make builds useless. Sure one element can have an advantage in one dungeon over the other, but useless?

And I think the worst part is that the boss fight is just kind of boring. It's standing in front of an un-moving target for 15 minutes spamming attacks just to get blown to smithereens in phase 3. The wretches force you to do about 50k damage in 10 seconds, which unless you can do that dps (which as a non-mythic tank I can't), it is impossible to avoid the -90%.

Alright, I'm done with the baby rage rant. Now I'm going to try to be reasonable.

I think it is great that the Wynncraft team is pushing us to our limits and finding ways to challenge us. I also think there is another thing that makes this fight great. Every time we run a dungeon over and over and over, it sort of makes the dungeon and boss look like a joke. Making this fight really hard sort of prevents The Eye from becoming a joke. The Eye is supposed to be this intimidating and powerful being, and by making this dungeon essentially unviable for xp-grinding helps to validate that.

However I don't like how they have implemented it. First off, maybe scale things with the amount of players differently. Make The Eye have higher health the more people and instead of adding more wretches/ -90% attacks, keep it to one wretch but increase the health. Also, maybe scale how much damage the wretch does. The higher your defense, the less % damage it does to you.

One thing that I do think everyone can agree on is the rarity of key guardians. I have searched for hours everywhere in the silent expanse and haven't found a single one. This basically forces you to have to pay money for a dungeon bomb or try to find some on a server somewhere.

At this point I'm desperate to get through. In fact, a lot of you may have seen me trying to run the dungeons. I'm honestly willing to pay people emeralds who can do the unbelievable challenge of getting me to beat this dungeon.

Again, I love this update, but I would love to experience all of it. Please feel free to criticize my reasoning and we can have a friendly conversation.

 

I agree on most things except that the dungeon is boring and that it’s almost impossible to get keys. It’s less boring because at least it’s not just one entity that runs around fast and is player sized. At least this is bigger then any other, which it should be. You really don’t have to buy a dungeon bomb either. Remember the in game market? People sell EO keys on there all the time, they might be expensive, but by lootrunning you can get the emeralds.

 

What

 

Would also like to point out, that I was in a group and there was about one of these every 5 seconds

 

If you're in a group, more wretches will spawn keep an eye on that

 

I would wish they stop doing this kind of thing in the future - That is disallowing access of a certain area without completing the dungeon.

The dungeon is not easy, and any non-damage build or classes like Mage, Shaman, and Warrior are going to suffer. that means there's a very likelihood of players unable to access the "Hunter's Calling" quest at all, and thereby unable to finish every single quests in the quest book.

The boss itself is fine I guess, I just want to do Hunter's calling without doing the dungeon. Dungeons should just be optional.

 

The first time I did the dungeon, the eye completely obliterated me (more like the minions lol) but then I used skill pots and it went pretty well (still, the fight was pretty tense).

Now the problem is that you have a tank build and I have a spell spam build, which probably have better dps than yours.

The problem with this dungeon is that it's a dps check. Can you deal 50k damage in less than 10 seconds? Then you can beat this dungeon. You can't? Too bad, hope your healing is good or better find someone to do it.

I would say that if you take that 90% of yout HP. The Eye should stop doing spells for a brief moment so you can have a little time to recover yourself. Not a lot of time, so when it begins to attack again you are still at low health, but enough time to not get killed by a sudden wave just after the 90% hit.

If this helps, when it's about to do the explosion and delete your health (when the eye says something in Wynnic), go away and kill the minions that were left and prepare your potions. There is a bit of time to prepare yourself for the big hit.

 

According to some guys, it is very easy. So where is the problem?

Feel you bro.

 

I think the 90% damage thing should be reduceable by defence, so at least tank builds can be relevant. Either tank the damage or kill the wrench.

Although it will need a compensation buffs, like increasing wrench HP to 75k, deals 150% of max HP damage at 0 defence. So either kill it or tank it.

 

Is no one going to talk about the FPS issues when so many particles and mobs spawn? (or when the eye pops out as a mob for the final phase, my FPS drops to 10-12 whenever I look at it). Like I know it's supposed to be a challenging fight so there would be a lot of spells (death laser and the cool snatching part) and minions, but sometimes there's so many mobs and particles going on that my frames drop really hard (combined with server lag) and it's nearly impossible to not die. Also it would be nice if the deathknell wretch (or whatever it's called, I never have a chance to look at its name because I'm trying not to die at that point) had a larger name or entity size because it's really hard to keep track of where it is on its run to kill us all. But that might just be me being blind, Idk if anyone else has that problem.

 

What's the issue with tank builds?
Something you guys may not understand, but a good tank build can live with 90% of there HP missing. Surviving at 1-3k is fairly simple, just make sure to have some form of estainability. Life steal or health regen, greed is a good one to use.

 

I'm not going to do A Hunter's Calling :

1. When I entered the second room after the quest, 2 seconds after, a mob pulled me off the edge (Then the Deep Monsters killed me), this is my own fault, I agree.
2. Can't find Key Holder because luck is not something that exists for me in this world.
3. I'm broke af (I had to buy a mythic back because it disappeared with the 1.19, thx guys for that sweet bug WHICH WAS REPORTED before the release ...)
4. Lag

 

"just don't lag"

 

mythic flex

mythic flex

 

100% agree.

 

Ok, in that case, I will tell you guys when I get back home, I won't use any mythics.

 

I will keep them for you

 

I actually was able to solo EO using only a water mage. Defeating the boss only took HALF AN HOUR. And then, since I was in hero beta, my pupil got consumed without it letting me into the next area. The dungeon is great, the fact you're required to do it is annoying as hell.

 

Yeah, Mage can generally manage alright because of Heal - sure you probably aren't going to kill the Wretches, but they won't usually manage to kill you either.

 

Maybe make it to where If you die and you haven't done hunters calling yet it doesnt take any soul points

I dont know if that makes any sense but basically,
If you have done hunters calling then when you die in eo it takes 2sp, if you haven't done hunters calling and die in eo you dont lose any soul points and you can retry