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Guide Mythic Emporium Price Guide

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Hyco, Dec 16, 2018.

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  1. Hyco

    Hyco Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    well the prices are according to sold ones.. if nobody sells ignis or divzer for higher it's not really rising.
     
  2. Madkurre

    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    now that defence and courage work, ignis > strati
    the skill point-based defensive capabilities are equal, but ignis has more freedom with them. ignis also has three tons more health than strati
    in terms of spell damage theyre around equal before factoring in courage, after which puts ignis is in the lead by a long-shot
    [copied and slightly edited from my other post here]
     
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    Agility still remains a stronger skill point than defense for archer, not to mention strati has a fuckton of ws alongside it.

    Also your claim in your post that ignis is better than divzer is frankly absurd. Even with courage on ignis, divzer still does more damage and if we factor in killstreak it gets significantly more damage, as well it has stellar healing capabilties that ignis can't match. Maybe you're thinking of glassier builds using divzer, but personally I use a t/w/f build and it's nearly as bulky as an ignis build with better healing and more damage. And I've not even mentioned assuming courage is on at all times is also ridiculous, archer melee still remains hard to hit with an advantageous position, even with its buff.
     
  4. Madkurre

    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    on average, defense and agility are now exactly equal. it's how it shouldve always been since the new combat system but was only recently fixed
    where strati has ridiculous ws, ignis has ridiculous health, especially in comparison to strati which has the large amount of -hp

    i didnt exactly argue the damage difference to be what puts ignis above divzer in my rankings, but even thats not as significant as you make it sound.
    if we take two fairly basic builds (eg. divzer, ignis. lmk if you have complaints with these) to compare the damages of, ignis isnt too far off whenever courage is activated (2k bomb damage difference), considering it's a defensive bow.

    if you factor in armor specials, you may as well think about endurance as well. it's situational which is better, as killstreak requires minion-like mobs to do anything, while endurance can be utilized even in 1v1 fights.

    for the healing factors, ignis lowers any incoming damage to the point where you can easily outheal most damage with just health regen alone. divzer can do the same with life steal, but it's dependent on your chains hitting something, which opens room for fuck-ups and situations where there just isnt mobs to heal off of.
    basically im saying ignis will keep recovering your health back to full just as divzer will, it's more consistent

    i guess i can also mention that you can have agility on the side with ignis for another large boost in survivability
     
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    I think you fail to see that defense still isn't optimal for archer, an archer with max defense will never be tankier than half of a warrior, this also makes endurance nearly impossible to use with ignis. Also note that the hpr change is more of a nerf for ignis, as now hpr is less efficient if you're not getting hit, which is something you're avoiding a lot as an archer because you're still gonna get melted by nearly every mob.

    As far as damage goes, if you're going to assume courage is up 24/7 then I'm also going to include that max killstreak boost is up 24/7, as in most situation where you can get courage up for a long period of time their are likely multiple mobs to siphon the charge from. Making that comparison divzer deals nearly 2x the damage of ignis.

    So in conclusion if we take in account the defense changes, how ignis isn't nearly as tanky or defensive as you may assume, divzer definitely comes out on top, in healing capabilties and damages.
     
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    HV_Metal Convergence VIP

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    At maximum defense (150) the total damage taken by an archer is between 26% and 28%. And this now applies to elemental damages too, not only neutral. While it is indeed not on the same level as warrior, it's a significant damage reduction, especially if you compare it to how much it was in the past.

    I fail to understand how is the hpr change a nerf to Ignis. Not getting hit can't be always achieved, so if you do manage to take damage it's nice to have that load of health regeneration that will activate regardless you took damage or not. Because if you compared it to how it worked in the past, you'd quickly realise that it was much worse before because if you took a hit just a second before hpr would have activated then you'd had to wait again.

    <Insert division line>

    Most bosses out there have swarms of minions around them, so it's no problem charging up your kill streak. And if they don't, they are still no problem to defeat with the extreme damage output of Divzer. Ignis takes on avg 8 seconds to charge up it's powder special and it's damage will still not be on the same level aa Divzer. The difference between Endurance and Kill Streak is that Endurance requires you to get hit many times to boost your power while Kill Streak allows you to sit back at a safe distance and blast everything to pieces. Regarding how situational they are is elaborated in the next argument.

    Again: most of the time there are minions so it's no problem to replenish your health with a chain lightning. And since the hitboxes of arrows have been increased it's even harder to miss them. If there are minions, Divzer can drastically heal itself in the matter of seconds which Ignis would have a glimpse of perhaps after a minute. If there are no minions that's even better; you don't even have to consider healing yourself. You can melt down pretty much any boss with a few arrow storms while the blindness from arrow shield lasts; they don't even get a chance to land a single hit on you. At worst you'll have to cast the shield twice.

    I have tried Divzer literally everywhere you could try a weapon out in this game, including Qira, LI, wars. As intimidating it's downside might look like, it does the job absolutely well, much faster than Ignis has done them (I used to own an Ignis too). It wasn't difficult at all to do those 3, nor anything else I have used Divzer for.

    ...to survive what?... if every threat has been deleted seconds before they could have even done anything.

    TL;DR Defense archer is not as bad, but it's still not enough to put it above (or on the same level, whatever) Divzer.
     
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    BqwaOLD Famous Adventurer

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    All of them
    Price: too much
    (Jk, but how do you have SO many mythics?)
     
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    Khaps Ex-moderator and leader of the Mythic Emporium HERO

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  9. Hyco

    Hyco Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    -Stratiformis ⬇
    -Weathered ⬇
    -Collapse ⬇
    -Apocalypse ⬇

    -Ignis ↑
    -Gaia ↑

    and general layout
     
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    Hyco Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    -Stratiformis ⬇

    -Collapse ⬇
    -Idol ⬇
    -Ignis ⬇
    -Warp ⬇
    -Stratiformis ⬇

    -Apocalypse ↑
    -Galleon ↑


    if you got any complainments, dm me! :)
     
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    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    damn strati dropped so hard it had to be marked down twice
     
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    Hyco Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    oh well not really I mean expensive mythics drop in big steps ^^ but sadly many people sell strati rn and go for a really low price.. low 90s are getting sold in the 30-35 range only really good ones (like homruhs) are worth more than 40.. sadly not up to 50 anymore :/
     
  13. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Waiting for Collapse min to go sub-stack lol
     
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    Triactic Below average IQ VIP+

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    Kek rip strati sellers
     
  15. DutchSpruceRun

    DutchSpruceRun Adventurer VIP+

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    Bumppp i think this thread is useful
     
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  16. Madkurre

    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    whats the point of these lmao the sp boosts are like the least mattering rolls when the reqs already force you to >100 usually
    just picked out a couple but seems really senseless to showcase them as the most mattering roll when i doubt most even take sp boost in consideration unless it's int
     
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    tig "Because EO parkour killed my grandma, OK???"

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    that extra 3% dmg tho man
     
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  18. Hyco

    Hyco Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    -Nirvana ⬇
    -Weathered ⬇
    -Apoc⬇
    -Ignis ↑
    -Freedom⬇
    -Pure⬇
    -Spring⬇
     
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    sulphursmite Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    ok this is epic, now we need an emporium for every single legend and every horse and i will be fine
     
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    Hyco Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    if you wish this thread stays up to date, please help me out on that by sending me price updates (Discord: Hyco#0132) I personally won't follow prices anymore because of well.. check my profile post. ^^
     
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