Info The Elemental Revamp: Part 1 - Endgame Overhaul - Updated Changelog Beta 1.1.1

They've made there intentions very clear that this update was intended to lower the power level of endgame builds. I don't understand how that'll change in part 2 of anything.

 

I just mean the spells warrior has to work with are ass and the play style in general is garbage

 

>relic sets updated
Are they coming back?

 

Relic items have existed in the form of drops from a rare Relic Guardian mob for some time.

 

What if full morph went to 105 all? :thonk:

Edit: I was memeing but I did some testing and honestly I kind of like this. It keeps morph decent while not being particularly powerful (even on Archer, which would benefit the most), and also allows the use of almost everything non-mythic weapon, making it a versatility and jack-of-all-trades set again.

 

No.

 

Why?

 

yeah ok but why does morph giving 105sp to all seem like a bad idea to you

 

I never said it was a bad idea. It is actually quite pleasant.

 

Can someone show me the best builds to come out of this revamp? To my understanding the builds I've seen so far have less damage than before. I remember 120k arrow storms, 200k meteors, 40k spins, gaia melee doing 15k when last checking. Are these still possible? The only "crazy" damage I've seen with the new gear is a full glass (paper) cannon Collapse that can do 50k uppercuts.

 

200k meteors have not existed, at least in the years ive built. (if you stack every powder effect in a duel against a -def build, maybe?)
40k (average damage) spins are also just not possible with the current items either, unless you use the tricks mentioned above
(gaia is still well over 15k dps and 120k storms exist (& u can get 200k with gma rage))

 

id love to see that

 

I think our friend here has been exaggerating quite a bit, unless they can provide us with these "200k meteors", "40k spins" and "50k uppercuts" of which they speak...? Personally I'd find it quite funny to see something like that.

 

Oops, it doesn't reach 50k, but I slapped this together:
https://wynndata.tk/s/m7de1b
Note: By paper cannon I mean it.

Sorry, most of what I said doesn't exist today. They were claimed to exist in previous updates with various forms of abuse (The Specialist, Nether w/ potions, -def as they said). If these were still around then I imagine the revamp would be much more well received. Also, my sources are not reliable since they are from arrogant people in pre-renovated Detlas and I just remembered the chat.

Also, by 15k Gaia melee I meant in one hit. It was at the start of a PvP duel so I do not think the enemy had Rage on. I was wearing a standard rainbow tank with no powder or weapon effect. HP went from 15k to 0, no meteor cast.

 

My name is Samael, I fight for the Kingdom Foxes.
The forums post you are about to see contains a very sensitive subject; Detlas-dwelling.
It is unfortunately a subject that is close to me, having dealt with an actual occurrence of it many years ago.
If you or someone you know is in crisis or having thoughts of Detlas-dwelling, please call the national Detlas-dwelling prevention lifeline.

 

I promise to no longer waste time in Detlas.

Back to the subject, it seems players may have a hard time selecting / acquiring new gear befitting of the revamped archetypes. Best of luck to all!

 

Long post on damages and EF vs. TA spell builds coming in the near(-ish) future. Making builds systematically and investigating base damages has been very interesting. I'm hoping my post can illuminate some of the phenomena we've been observing in beta builds.

 

"Illuminate some of the phenomena"... to what end? Are these outliers of power that we can expect to be extinguished before release, or solid and stable ideas that may serve us better than some of the example builds we have seen from OP? Or am I misinterpreting this statement?

 

Consider, for example, that EWF builds were considered unusually strong early on, but are now about on-par with TWA builds. (broadly speaking - there are cases where EWF predominates and also cases where TWA predominates, both of which make more sense with what I've learned)

 

haven't been this upset in a hot minute, wild.