Info The Elemental Revamp: Part 1 - Endgame Overhaul - Updated Changelog Beta 1.1.1

https://wynndata.tk/s/a1trl0

 

ouch

oof

owie

my sides

on a more serious note,

you really shouldnt be saying that if youre gonna be as or more hostile than me

https://wynndata.tk/s/o4aecs
all i needed was a quick search on discord

 

That build doesnt meet his requirements

 

his old build didnt either so im just going with it

 

Ah lol i didnt see

 

https://www.wynndata.tk/s/oba489

 

so many nerfs.... and a ton of changed weapons had skill minimum increased... and the jump from 50 defense min to 95?! on hellstrand.... idk about this...

 

Give me a link to your current build.

 

they nerfed the life steal on apocalypse... WHY?!! atleast cata is fine.... and i hope it stays that way... im actually worried about this update

 

He sent all his builds on page 38

 

hi im late as fuck this quote is from like page 38 lmao

so the first one is just a textbook spell-damage focused hybrid. theres one you can modify into what you have there in the original post

quite damage focused, but if you change for example the helm to sunray for ms/ls and static brace to atlas for the same reasons and a -tier (for proc consistency)

for the second one, while fire tierstacking has been made more difficult, it's still possible (and might get easier as the update progresses)

third is just a water spell build i dont get why you'd think that kind of builds didnt exist post-update... (original post also contains 3 standard archer spell builds for hellstrand, shajaea and spring)

then theres just a thunder spell assassin... what even makes this a war build?

and the final one: fast melee mage. i think one (this?) was already posted but again, im late af
theyre even buffing most melee builds. how is it even possible to think they wouldnt be viable post-update


keep in mind these were hasty explanatory builds, better ones most likely exist and the changelog isnt the final version anyway. point is whatever playstyle youre currently using and want to keep using will be available after the update. i repeat myself from a previous post but the point is to make more playstyles viable (how do you think heavy melee competes against spell spam currently?)
(and to everyone else quoting me, learn to build or leave a request on my build plaza. maybe wait for when the changelog is actually ready though)

honestly now it just seems like y'all complaining about nothing working after the update just havent even tried to get used to post-update building

 

Hm, life steal is a lot harder to get on fire and tierstack at the same time. (I'm not very experienced with war builds, but things can be changed)
Inferno:
https://wynndata.tk/s/5nj4hc
https://wynndata.tk/s/jn4ec2
Desperation (health might be too low):
https://wynndata.tk/s/8jdbvy

and spears probably need to use centipede, which is really hard to put on a defense build with the -18 def (madkurre's build is probably the best use of centipede + fire dmg i've seen so far)

 

why is every build ive seen so far so god damn sp tight

 

sp optimization isnt important since shit's still undecided on the item team's side

 

That's a bold claim.

 

MORE example of paladin being too op:
:b:ignis
paladin: https://wynndata.tk/s/tz48vx
anima: https://wynndata.tk/s/rhs10t
paladin have +500 hpr +2k hp +1k bomb -2/4 ms compared to anima (who melees with archer anyways)

 

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or just buff the inferior/derpy archetypes

 

So, you want more nerfs? As opposed to just buffing anima to be as good as paladin?

 

I would suggest maybe not specifically buffing the hive items themselves, as they are already very powerful. But instead giving more usable solid build options for the weaker archetypes.
One example is medeis. With the change of anima infused from helmet to chestplate,this strong combo is now ruined.

 

It's not fun playing with really weak builds, this is the crux of the dislike for the update.