Info The Elemental Revamp: Part 1 - Endgame Overhaul - Updated Changelog Beta 1.1.1

Hey, uh licks lips you still want that Horizon?

 

what

 

im not saying their feedback shouldnt be taken into consideration, im just saying letting someone who hates the update with a burning passion get in would be an EXTREMELY bad idea, since those kinds of people would attempt to "pull the strings" behind the scenes and get the stuff they want while not taking into consideration the new meta

 

Could you also give some info about what in particular makes these builds work? As I understand, for example, ms/ls goes a lot farther in wars so you usually need less of it.

Also, I've heard Thrundacrack can solo max wars. This also means that, theoretically, Idol should be able to do the same post-revamp, as they are both at around the strength of pre-revamp Thrunda per my testing.

I think the IMs can handle the feedback just fine.

 

hmm

archer - rip have to build spell ee
archer 2 - like you said, sort of survives, so i'll prioritize that least
assassin - https://wynndata.tk/s/wl9kjn
mage - https://wynndata.tk/s/jdwa5z oops not quite 129 int just use int pot /s (anyway, rip part water for bishops, but i guess now better against snipers? idk) also some nice ws
mage 2 - https://wynndata.tk/s/t4goeu lower mana but 129 int, can't do much about damage loss or int loss unless you want to use H Y B R I D
mage 3 - oops sp tight https://wynndata.tk/s/at3m7k

 

Sounds like you're on the other end of the extremes lol

 

I'm not sure if war builds need Mana levels - it's possible that war builds just assume skill pots by default. (I don't remember the effectiveness multiplier sadly)

 

lmfao dude theres only been 1 questionable response and everyone else either questioning your fake statistic or having actual arguments, sounds like you need to get off your high horse

 

there's no need for a new meta in the first place.

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my point is, that the people on the other side of the argument don't understand how to make viable war builds.

 

Ohoho, skill potions are really not so fantastic in war. Level 95 goes from 71 sp to just 21. 90% of the time I use them for the other effects, like Agility's +50% walkspeed. The other 10% is when I'm facing maximum security and need every little bit of survivability I can get. I don't really use mana potions in war, so maybe that's a different story.

 

also, your builds really arent hard to replicate and/or improve with the beta items

 

thanks for the builds but i have no intention of playing after the update

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too bad my main build, divzer cant be improved or replicated with out completely changing how the build works

 

F Atlas
It lost its purpose.

 

so did cinderchain

 

dark wizard - https://wynndata.tk/s/rkyouw your thunder def is now worse (snipers i guess), but on the other side your air defense will probably compensate + you have better ws and water def (bishops). also slightly less healing potential ree
assassin - https://wynndata.tk/s/ovkuwd hmm much more mana, but now also sort of sp tight (idk if it can hit 129 int with an int pot). less hp i guess too
warrior - https://wynndata.tk/s/2yj9oe damage is really split so might be better off patching defenses with armor powders idk. ls drop is oof
archer - having trouble with water agi archer... water def works though (although not too sure how well it works i'll be back with it soontm)
ayy now wynndata crash i'll be back with ninja build as soon as it's back up ree

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ok very cool wasn't really related but eh

 

All I want is for someone to justify locking us into archetypes tbh, raising the sp reqs on every items and making the hive items so that it's impossible to use other elements if it's not in the archetype. Why would you force someone to use a play style they're not comfortable with in order for them to use the elements they want to use or force someone into using certain elements they might not like to use the play style they want to use. What if I wanna play E/A/T/F melee warrior, T/W/F/A ninja or light rainbow/W/A archer like my builds are right now. I still don't see how this gives us more freedom, they're implementing rules into build making, that's not a smart move at all.

 

“We should just create one giant echo chamber and nobody that has opposing opinions should be able to give input”

 

All level 95 skill potions give +21 sp in war. That assassin build is capable of hitting 108 intelligence which would make it possible in war, but yeah, hope you got some godly dexterity Darksteel rings.

 

Here is a cool new build for mages after the new update. *assuming that these items are not changed more in the next changelog*
https://wynndata.tk/s/6x517s
Dumped the earth defense a bit because in wars you do not need it much.
Hp is a bit on the lower side but the defense, agility, elemental defenses, and the extra hp from the defense pot will make you unkillable.
With Int pot you get to like 20 something int which makes meteors 7 mana to cast and the mana steal is enough to keep you able to fire off a meteor a second during max wars.
Damage is good enough without the use of any mythics plus you have killstreak which is amazing in wars. *plus since its thunder you will kill the pesty healers with ease*

 

https://wynndata.tk/s/v7z36r the minimum spins I like to have are 8.2k at the very least
https://wynndata.tk/s/rkyouw I quite like the mage build, but it's my least used class
https://wynndata.tk/s/2yj9oe the reason I don't like melee stack warrior is because from what I understand courage doesn't affect it, if it does I'd be willing to use that.
The ninja build will be near impossible to recreate, a thunder spellspam build with defense and agility
The archer build might be possible to recreate potentially, but I don't see an archer build as bulky as that one with 10k bombs and the ability to spell spam efficiently. Also idk if my build has this already, but I usually get myself up to 70 agil and 114 int

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and yeah I'm with Lego, after the update I probably won't be playing much anyways, I'm not fond of being forced into a play style with elements I wanna use and being blocked out from quad element builds.