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Unreliable In A Pinch

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by SilverMirror, Jun 16, 2019.

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  1. Qzphs

    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    … it IS fun to use. Speak to anyone who uses hybrid builds.
     
  2. Bart (MC)

    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC)

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    Not to be that guy, but hybrid builds are objectively harder to use than mana regen builds. Even as a mage (the best class for hybrid), you're gonna struggle with keeping mana high, especially with a possible -3 mana regen essentially making passive mana regen non-existant. Whether it's fun to use, that's up to you, but I think Lunar Spine is the only actual used mana steal build for a good reason.
    If this really is a change to Fatal, I guess it's ok..? It was always kind of boring with its four low-ish similar ids, but I think the whole 1-420 damage was enough of a gimmick to make it interesting. Not really a fan of making it mana steal-based (like so many thunder weapons already are or want to be), but hey, I guess that's where we use some cool mana regen gear and hope the -mana regen roll on Fatal is merciful.
     
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  3. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    I suspect a slight damage buff alongside this (note the 4/4 ms roll with a star, meaning base 3 or 4, same as Sitis). Weapons with negative Mana Regen tend to have high base damages.

    Mana steal is actually incredibly strong on Mage. Personally, I would just slap Aquarius and Atlas, and that basically takes care of Mana (maybe add Dia Hydro Necklace or whatever as well, if you're like me and prefer a lot of sustain).
     
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  4. tig

    tig EO parkour still sucks.

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    yea, it would be fun to use. The point of Mythics all along (i think) was to be gimmicky, rather than just good. Thats why Warp and Divzer are like, the 2 best Mythics. I'm hoping this is foreshadowing that all Mythics (except ones that are already gimmicky) are going to be changed to be made more like this.
     
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  5. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin.

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    I'm not sure why I'm the only one who sees this coming but, the minimum damage is probably going up.
    Instead of the wand being unreliable due to the extremely high damage range, it will be unreliable due to it relying on mana steal to cast spells.
    Because of the negative mana regen, you basically going to be running on empty, well until you get lucky enough for mana steal to work, For a brief second in time, a window will open for a massive spell.
    This works really well with chain lighting due to it's of activating mana steal.

    There attempting to change what it means to be unreliable. Not random, instead, the times you need it the most, you just may not have enough mana to cast with.
     
  6. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    -3/4 implies no worse mana regen than Black or Sitis. I don't think we'll be seeing another Lunar Spine. I personally expect a similar min and a bit of a buff to max (maybe 500-600)
     
  7. MrH

    MrH Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    I think that'd be too op...
    https://wynndata.tk/s/XL8gCF
    reliable 30k meteors with basically no rng, good int, mr and ms, no negative defenses, etc.
    I think the base damage wouldn't be that high...
     
  8. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    I was saying base damage 1-550 or whatever, not 500s min as well.
     
  9. MrH

    MrH Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    Oh, I see. That makes sense.
    https://wynndata.tk/s/KLsFgE
    Seems still quite op... but then again, fatal is kind of op anyway so :shrug:
     
  10. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin.

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    Never said it would be. An item doesn't need to be extreme to push a certain kind of play style.
     
  11. highbread

    highbread highbread

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    i hope you know that 1-420 is already quite high

    1-500/1-600 is like

    a lot
     
  12. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Oh it's 420, thought it was 480 for some reason. I imagine it might get an 8-10% buff.
     
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    Take Rice Smuggler HERO

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  14. rmminemonster

    rmminemonster Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    ooooof wow thats hard
     
  15. satbyccdoerfe

    satbyccdoerfe some random golem CHAMPION

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  16. victorpotato2

    victorpotato2 Broke af HERO

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    Ehhh what about lameme
     
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  17. Qzphs

    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    Zero has give or take the same lore as Fatal; does anyone think that will be affected also?
     
  18. Turbostratus

    Turbostratus Newbie Adventurer Media CHAMPION

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    I dunno what helmet that is, but I can tell you that having -3/4mr was a fatal mistake ._.
     
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  19. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Zero is already pretty bad - Mana steal oriented Archer, without even access to powder specials, would make it even worse.
     
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    damn 10char
     
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