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Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by PrimaNocta, Feb 21, 2019.

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  1. PrimaNocta

    PrimaNocta Well-Known Adventurer

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    I'm not sure if this has been previously discussed or posted, but in the Timeless Ruin discovery, there is something rather interesting. A corpse lies in the end of an under-ground ruin, and as you walk towards it, the ruin reverts back in time; up until the point of the being's death. It mutters a few words and dies.
    https://imgur.com/a/jjkEMQm

    The words muttered can be translated from Wynnic as: The olm cannot survive here, it is coming for us.

    Obviously this civilization has existed in Wynn before the settlers in Maltic, and pre-date pretty much everything there. This is evidenced by the enemies in that area; the ancient guardians are ancient. How ancient? Probably pre-dating villager and human history in Wynn. However, they come from a distant land. "The people who built these mysterious structures had unusual control over time magic. Very few alive understand it or know about the people who lived here, for they were neither Human nor Villager. A species from a distant land." Which is strange considering the age of their civilization.

    Why would such a powerful and gifted race (later on that) move to Wynn? Clearly they weren't there to conquer, as they could've easily done so; therefore, we can assume they were a peaceful race. No, it only makes sense for a settlement sized population to reside in a new land only if they sought pilgrimage. But why would they take pilgrimage? Assuming that these people are the Olm, and they've escaped their homeland, possibly Dern, what were they running from? Well ladies and gentlemen, I theorize a great tragedy struck the Olmish? Olmen? Olminites? Olm people. I believe they fled their homeland because of the Darkness, aka the corruption; after all, they seem so familiar with the darkness. But they came only to find that Wynn too will soon be corrupt. They knew this either from the opening of the portal (unlikely) or from their time magic, allowing them to peak into the future (more likely).

    Either the Olm fled elsewhere and there is a settlement of Olm somewhere in the world, or they gave up and ended themselves. Why else would a seemingly uninjured Olm die by itself in an underground tomb? The portal at that time, probably, wasn't discovered. And that Olm probably didn't want its corrupted corpse to roam the land.

    Lastly, I'd like to point something interesting out about our favorite hero: Bob. The greatest hero to ever grace Wynn, talented, moral, and grey. "A woman who never said her name, nor where she had come from (she certainly wasn't one of Ragni's own), gave birth to a baby boy on the cold floors of the sewer." A desperate mother taking refuge in Ragni's sewers, with seemingly no background or anyone's knowledge of. A total foreigner, perhaps even a different race. "Robert was never a popular lad, always treated differently, his skin was a shade of grey unnatural to those of Ragni, who have always been fair skinned." Robert's mother was most likely grey like him too, and we can't know for sure if Robert was even a human. He didn't fit in, like a boy raised by wolves, his physique was too different, but he was at least humanoid. The Olm are another humanoid species, with grey skin. This is evident by the Olm in the tomb to be grey skinned, and humanoid.
    https://imgur.com/a/QINkgPq

    Why is any of this really significant? The darkness has pretty much been at it for a very long time, ancient beings are familiar with them, and they've been slowly creeping up on the world. It's true that it's only a matter of time before the darkness completely takes over. However it's taking them so fucking long, can we get some fucking end-game content for fucks sake? End-game as in wrap up the darkness story arc holy fuck it's so generic and boring. Is it gonna take the portal another 1000 fucking years before anything actually happens? The land of Wynn and Gavel are already wastelands of mobs and mobs and mobs and mobs, I'd rather Yahya be the ultimate villain. And you have to stop him from inducing the entire world into a permanent state of heightened senses.
     
  2. Asthae

    Asthae ... CHAMPION

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    I really don't get most of the thread.

    It seems like you just randomly put things together.

    And it seems like you really don't like Wynncrafts lore, do you? ._.
     
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  3. PrimaNocta

    PrimaNocta Well-Known Adventurer

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    Yeah Wynn lore is pretty bad man. I've played lots of rpgs and mmorpgs, and Salted did a damn poor job of writing the story. I'm sure it's not just him who's doing the writing, but I have absolutely no confidence in their story telling capabilities. Wynn is one-dimensional. It's charming because it's so absolutely generic in it's fantasy elements and silly motifs, but it's often substanceless. It poorly manages its themes of light and dark, it is a tonal wreck. Wynncraft is fine as a childish fantasy game for little kids, and I find that endearing. It's a cute game, but its lore is bad. When it tries to be serious, it just becomes laughable. I think Wynncraft can be the game it sometimes wants to be, but the game's current lore is so deeply engraved in the world that it's kind of too late. You'd essentially need large scale changes to the world to make any of its lore good. Wynncraft has a very cool map and very cool environments. It's just a shame the people who write the lore pander to little kids and their own generic sense of fantasy.

    And yes. I absolutely put related things together randomly. I was in the middle of going through all the discoveries when I decided I wanted to put an observation on the forums. If you're having trouble understanding the thread, simply read more. You don't have to be clever to put things together friend.
     
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  4. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    It's interesting, the times the story gets good, it's far superior to the usual times but I end up seeing it as less than it is because I end up comparing it to other stories. My first impression of Dwarves and Doguns was tainted a little by this.

    (exception for One Thousand Meters Under <3)
     
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  5. Asthae

    Asthae ... CHAMPION

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    Yes, I agree that the lore is pretty 'bad' and is had to be taken seriously since it started with all those Minecraft related things... Too many different/random things are spread over the world of Wynncraft. There are so many quests that just don't fit together in one lore. It is a fact that many 'kids' play Minecraft and the team really wanted to do easy quests for everyone to understand. Still I think we need actual lore that is not just really really random I guess...

    and don't get cocky my friend ._.
     
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    the drink the CHAMPION

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    isnt wynncraft rated like 12 and above though according to ct?
     
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  8. PrimaNocta

    PrimaNocta Well-Known Adventurer

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    I read 'Heart of Darkness' when I was twelve. Twelve year olds are smart and can be sophisticated, I'm sure the CT know that. So then why the fuck is their lore so childish and bad?

    Eh, I've played mountains of video games. I look at the Wynn's physical map and I explore the world, and I see the potential just waiting there. CT did a poor job of writing stories for Wynn, honestly the story does not justify the builds. But Wynn's lore has its charms for sure.
     
  9. Keeko100

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    Yeah I agree Wynn's lore is ass. I'm ok with it though because I know that's not the focus. Would be awesome if they started to improve it though.
     
  10. PrimaNocta

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    thanks patches
     
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  11. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    First off, Grian is the lore dude, not Salted. Second off, yeah, basically.

    We don’t really have actual writers, and all of Wynn is basically a side project turned main attraction, which means that all the little jokes and references that were there in the beginning had to become shoehorned into the lore after the fact when the server started getting big, like with Creepers and Yahya and Nohno. The Great Hero of the story before us is named Bob. BOB. And he’s named that because he started off as a joke in the early years of Wynn before someone made lore for him. In a world with names like Cinfras, and Bak’al, and Amadel, the great myth and legend is BOB. It just feels so jarring compared to the “world is slowly dying unless this one man can stop it” motif around his lore, and basically encapsulates the problem with the lore, where the tone of the server at the start interferes with the tone that the server wants to command now.

    And it’s certainly not helped by the fact that the CT, great as they are at the mechanical parts and builds of quests, just... aren’t good writers. Hell, some of them don’t really follow grammatical rules that well, either. And all of this is really not helped by the fact that we don’t have a main storyline. In this world of monsters and corruption and zombies, we’re not so much characters as we are spectators. A generic story is fine; there’s a reason the Hero’s Journey is such a common archetype, and this is still basically the most indie server to have ever indied, so Shakespeare isn’t expected or needed. But a generic story told this poorly just hurts.

    Tl:Dr Wynn is held back by a mix of it’s beginning as a non-serious side project and its lack of writing talent. We really need a volunteer with prior experience with dialogue to step up.
     
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  12. Keeko100

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    you aint a cleric are ye
     
  13. PrimaNocta

    PrimaNocta Well-Known Adventurer

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    no of course not
    [​IMG]
     
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  14. Lexwomy

    Lexwomy Lexwomy HERO

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    what'd you expect from a minecraft mmorpg
    with 800 players
    /s if it isn't obvious already
     
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    If the Olm are running from anything, it would be the Eye, the corruption isn’t in Dern. It is exclusive to Wynn
     
  16. PrimaNocta

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    Is the darkness not present throughout the entire world? And the corruption is but an aspect of the darkness?
     
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    To the first question, not really. The only places where the darkness is prevalent are the Abandoned Mines (near Dern), the Swamp, the Dark and Kander Forests, and Dern. Everywhere else doesn't really have it.

    To the second question, no. The Corruption is the result of the clashing of Light and Darkness against each other, which is why it's most prevalent in Wynn, which is located between Gavel (light) and Dern (darkness) geographically, and in the Kander Forest, where Darkness is battling the light. If the light were to invade Dern, you'd see corruption there as well.
     
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