Thoughts On Hypixel's New Tower Defense Game

Recently, I went on Hypixel to see how it was going, and stumbled across their new game: Towers!

This is basically a tower defense game, in their Prototype game lobby, and it's honestly one of my favourite minigames Hypixel has made (second to warlords).

Why am I making a thread on this?
Well, there's a lot of hate against Hypixel here, and for some valid reasons - that they focus so much on vanilla PvP minigames and totally ignore everything else (*cough* housing). This is a really cool minigame, with more strategy to it than it might seem at first, so I just wanted to share this with everyone!

My opinion on it:
This is one of the only recent really good games Hypixel has made, so that already gives it a ton of respect from me.
But as for the actual game - First, the game mechanics are extremely simple and easy to learn - you can build towers, which shoot down mobs attacking you. Mobs that reach your base steal one of your hearts and give it to the mob's owner. Second, you can buy mobs to attack your enemies, and each mob purchased adds a bit of gold to your income (every 10 seconds). And finally, you can upgrade your towers from T1 to T3, and also a T4 specialization (where you have to choose from 2).
That's it.

But, with such simple mechanics, there's still a lot of depth to the gameplay. The main strategic aspect is how to lay out your defenses to make sure you can efficiently deal with enemy attackers. If there's a lot of slow moving mobs, place endermen in strategic locations to teleport them back nonstop. If there's a lot of mob swarms, use rapidfire and burst damage defenses.
There's also strategy in which mobs to send at your enemies - you have to balance out the strength of your army with the cost and income of the mobs themselves. There's healing mobs, to heal other mobs, but they're usually slower than the rest.

For Hypixel, where they usually make simple PvP minigames that are basically just spinoffs of Bedwars, this is really new and a breath of fresh air.
The gameplay is fun, and doesn't get boring too quickly. Upgrades keep the game from getting stale, however there's often a near-stalemate at the end of the game where there's only 2 people left with insane amounts of money, causing the game to drag on for way too long at that time.

Anyways, what does everyone else think of this?
I will take this down if it's against the rules, just PM me.

 

This is really cool but I can't shake the feeling that this is a tweeked copy from cubecraft's version.

 

I’ve never played Cubecraft, so I have no idea what their version was. Is it similar?

 

Same thing basically but obviously different troops, towers.

Only thing different is the mobs stealing the hearts as cubecraft is a health system

 

Huh. At least it’s still a step in the right direction for Hypixel. Maybe they might even revive warlords someday.

 

its more like Bloons TD Battles in my opinion

I enjoy the game, but they take fuckin forever to finish
Plus I'm good at the game so yay

 

ive played it once and i didnt like it

 

It feels like they ripped it from cubecraft but simplified it and made it six teams instead of two

 

Cubecraft's is much better in the gameplay department
Hypixel's is much better in the QoL department

Cubecraft's would be superior in everything if stuff like a solo mode existed, and Hypixel's would be superior if it wasn't an insult to strategy games with how meta the thing is and how income is the only thing that matters to the point the game should be called Tower Offence

 

I find that the income isn’t as important as you make it seem, it’s needed, but it’s fairly easy to balance income with defense. Just spamming mobs works sometimes but quickly stops when your mobs can no longer passthe enemy’s defenses.

 

Yeah but if your income is superior, the enemy is doomed, as there is no punishment for attacking incorrectly and a bad defences ends up being too much of a deal
End-game literally becomes a "who can spam the most mobs" because there isn't some quick send mechanism and there is no limit to the hordes, leaving wave composition out, a fundamental thing for strategy games that consist of real time troop summoning, knowing what to pull and when to pull
Hypixel's system leaves that out of the way due to how there is no limit on mobs you can send per second
It only makes it worse that there REALLY is no punishment for attacking incorrectly
Doing a bad attack in Cubecraft's leads to the enemy having a good supply of income for the next attack, so you can't just keep sending random mobs after you have upgraded anything you have, you gotta choose which mob is the most efficient for farming XP, and which one is the most efficient for attacking
And before you say "But there is a limit, the mobs in stock run out eventually" these fill up soo quickly end-game that you can summon them quickly enough to still pressure the enemy enough
Cubecraft's depends on what to build and when to build, and what to send and when to send, Hypixel's relies on how quickly to send and how quickly to build
Because literally half of the towers are completely useless except for Archer and Magma, and magma eventually becomes useless due to how little damage it causes, and archers eventually become unviable too because they can't attack multiple things at once, making an horde of mobs with lots of health an absolute horror to deal with

Hypixel's problems are hard to fix because they require to overhaul the entire game, though fixing the mobs is as hard as making all mobs upgradeable in some way and have an actual limit to it, with each mob having a distinct function in the game, there is no need for 20 mobs that are EXACTLY the same yet with different speed levels, because that's yet another flaw, why the fuck does a sonic troop have much more health than a insanely slow troop with a very similar cost? It's fucking stupid, and that healing mob has soo little effect in the game they really are a waste and nothing more than yet another tank to spam

Cubecraft's problems are easy to fix because it only requires them to just add some QoL changes such as solo mode, the game works and its duration is perfect, and the strategy factor has a lot more effect here because not all troops are the same but with more health than the previous one and even then there is a limit to both the attack power and the defensive power, that are limited in a far more natural and less artificial than Hypixel's
And if the game simply doesn't end, the game ends after a while and decides the winner through who has more health, literally how Hypixel's should end too, instead of the horrible idea the Death Riders are, because the game gets decided by who played better through the entire game, not who got faster to the end-game state


Hypixel's simply has too many gameplay problems to be a good strategy game, and most of the problems lie on how little variety there is for everything, all mobs are the same with 2 parameters changed/a little special power that has literally no impact on the game and the amount of towers is ridiculously small for a tower defense game

Also, I already gave up on this thing because Hypixel isn't gonna update it more anyways, the last update for it was a month ago and they haven't shown signals of going to update it again, so they are clearly going to just end up dumping this to the Arcade like Zombies, I'm calling it because that's exactly what has happened with half the prototype minigames, they either flopped because they haven't updated it in ages, or got sent to the arcade lobby to die (Zombies was relatively popular, throwing it to the Arcade Lobby clearly meant they didn't want the game to succeed)
The only reason the Pit hasn't flopped is because that community loves cookie clickers after all, and The Pit is literally that but with a more free-for-all KitPvP style, which isn't bad but they haven't updated this game in almost a year already, they keep saying they want to work on it yet they keep updating the 3 minigames that keep them alive (Bedwars and what else) instead of doing updates to this gamemode that is asking for an update already

I got no hope for this minigame, both because of its terrible game design and because soo far it is going the same way all PT minigames went

 

I... think that’s kind of it. Maybe Mega Walls too, though I haven’t checked. May Galaxy Wars, Zombies, Warlords, and prolly TD rest in peace

 

While I do enjoy playing it, I can only play 1 game due to how long a goes on for let alone just how repetitive the game is.
once you find the strat you like you stick with it and win almost every game, gets boring quickly

meanwhile on cubecraft the main problem (for me) is when you get STUPID FUCKIN TEAMATES WHO PLACE TOWERS INCORRECTLY AND BLOCK OFF 5x5 AREAS
god that pisses me off

Income is SUPER important, it unlocks all the new mobs, and makes upgrading go much faster.
while in early game you need to be wise with how you get income, once you get up to like, diamond zombies it really doesn't start to matter...
and at the fight to the winish, once you have ALL your towers maxed, you just send deathriders and whatever else to increase income and beat in your enemy's ass.

good points, I cant combat this, but I do want to point some things out

I actually find magma pretty useful in late game, not to mention that the other towers are fully useless
slime is mean't for slowing (slime tower slows to a complete HALT)
witchs weaken making them take more damage (not sure if its super useful or not, I don't look at stats)
and endermen are just a "enemy got through? no it didn't" kinda thing

Deathriders suck all balls, and make it so whoever has highest income wins by default (as long as their not stupid anyway)

Cubecraft solo TD would be a fucking notch send.

I loved Zombies, fucking fell in love with it, sadly I always get bad teammates whenever I try to play it now-a-days also the game takes over half an hour to beat so that nice

The pit's prestige system pisses me off, grouping together people with high prestige, special weapons, and other perks that make it basically imposable to kill them when their like, prestige XVIII or something like that. (also hackers pop up every now and again so that's great)

I wonder what would happen if hypixel shut down bedwars for like a week, would the server get less players or will people start playing other games again?

To quote jontron, "Probably ain't no hope in here! Probably ain't no hope for the likes of anyone!"

 

Yeah, those who do that deserve to get their necks run by a car

Exactly the problem, the only part of the game where towers matter is the early game

Yeah but the amount of enemies they affect and the range is an absolute joke

Other than a stupidly satisfying hit noise, they haven't helped me at all

Endermen would be good if not for the fact mobs get sent to such a massive rate that the problem isn't simply "i need a bit more time", they get sent soo fast that if one mob gets through, that means your defense lacks DPS, so slowing troops down doesn't do anything at all

Death riders simply don't work, they are meant to end the game yet for some reason they just either rig the game or make it endless

Indeed

So did I, but they forgot about it, just like they have done with almost every PT game

The Pit has potential, however the prestige system isn't very well done and it requires tons of refinement, but I already gave up my hopes on this, last update was more than half a year ago and they said they want to update it but can't find time
Can't find time my ass, BW keeps getting almost monthly updates

The server would most likely die, half of the playerbase is just little kids who want to be like their youtubers

Amen.

 

The way you said that makes me think of some osmosis jones thing where cars are in control of the neck area
I don't know why but I find that kinda funny

If he A: had a shorter cooldown B: Had an area attack or C: DID A LOT OF DAMAGE/INSTA KILLED then he would be much more useful
but for the being, sucks balls more than a vacuum

*cries in shotgun*

Did they seriously say they couldn't find the time to update a prototype game?
ISNT THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF THE PROTOTYPE LOBBY IS FOR PLAYERS TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON W.I.P GAMES?!
AND TO HELP FINISH THE GAMES?!
Notch damnit Hypixel, you have REALLY gone downhill...

DanTDM: *Yells*
PopularMMOs: *Yells with wife*
PrestionPlay: *Yells with clickbait*
ibxtoycat: *TalksAtTheSpeedOfSound*
UnspeakableGaming: *Yells IN clickbait*
Antvenom: *Update ver 2.0: added a lot of update clickbait*

I could go on and on with this shit, very few Minecraft channels are good...
I may as well list the ones I find good:

Jake Eyes: https://www.youtube.com/user/jayRiott Makes some funny 50 ways to die in MC videos, and their actually pretty good!
StampyLongNose/Head: https://www.youtube.com/user/stampylonghead Kid friendly and doesn't play forknive, personally can't watch him because his videos aimed towards youngens but I respect him for not comforming to the clickbait shit
Phoenix SC: https://www.youtube.com/user/phnixhamstasc Just does some silly stuff in MC with data packs
RTGame: https://www.youtube.com/user/RTGame Not 100% just MC but when he does it, its fuckin amazing
Most of the hermits: Grain, MumboJumbo, you know them, and I think they're all alright

Also battle cats 8.3 is coming so prepare your anus: https://www.reddit.com/r/battlecats/comments/as74el/announcement_bcjp_83_is_out/

 

Signs of "Help," "Labor Unions" and "Wages": exist
RTGame:

Spoiler

 

He's my favorite minecraft channel.
His style of videos are very cool and unique, but I admit that a lot of his videos are clickbaits.

 

HEY GUYS! TOWERWARS GOT AN UPDATE!
NOW ITS EVEN MORE LIKE CUBECRAFT'S TOWERDEFENCE!

 

Well better go try it out now

 

it seamed fun to me